Looking for Dumbo

[kathryn]

I don't want to take this off topic...but wanted to mention that today is both the tail of the old year and head of the New Year. It is 12/31. Have a look at what the numerical weight of 1231 describes:

http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/gr_1231.asp Interesting that it is both "to put to death/ execution"(tail) and the "crown"(head).

Note that the "23" theme of death and life, the alef tav, is coming through the two pillars or "11": 1 23 1.

I know the date is now placed at the beginning...but I've found that the old way of placing the day in the middle has applied in all of the "synchronicity" I've experienced and is also confirmed in gematria as it describes the "to day" concept in the realm of spirit, or the "midst. (as do names).

Richard's dumbo dream was on the 11/24...or the lamed/ox goad/tongue coming through the "14" or Nun, High Priest: 1 12 4. (14 is also the gematria for "aha" )

[kathryn]

I don't want to take this off topic...but wanted to mention that today is both the tail of the old year and head of the New Year. It is 12/31. Have a look at what the numerical weight of 1231 describes:

http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/gr_1231.asp Interesting that it is both "to put to death/ execution"(tail) and the "crown"(head).

Note that the "23" theme of death and life, the alef tav, is coming through the two pillars or "11": 1 23 1.

I know the date is now placed at the beginning...but I've found that the old way of placing the day in the middle has applied in all of the "synchronicity" I've experienced and is also confirmed in gematria as it describes the "to day" concept in the realm of spirit, or the "midst. (as do names).

Richard's dumbo dream was on the 11/24...or the lamed/ox goad/tongue coming through the "14" or Nun, High Priest: 1 12 4. (14 is also the gematria for "aha" )

1124 is 4 (dalet/door) x 281...both beauty and ashes: http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/gr_281.asp

[lenvande]

Hi Richard, Len and Bob....Bob...you mentioned the 12 gates; the "220" is also the numerical weight for the doorkeeper...so in that sense, it describes a "threshold" from one realm into another.

If you recall the synchronicity surrounding my father's death in the room I was birthed in (340) on his 34034 day...he died just after sundown on the 2/20 (or the threshold of the next day)
On this same "threshold" date and time...I had two other events years apart, that pointed to the same theme. The deed for our old house, was passed to new owners...and three years later, the deed to a new house passed to us.

What was particularly interesting, was the the old house was at the foot of Mt. Tabor (in Prince George..not Israel) in the south (Tabor comes the root meaning to break or crush)...the new house, several hundred feet above Mt. Tabor facing the mountain from the north. This death/birth theme carried through in many other details surrounding that "220" and the threshold of the next or new day.

(regarding the "34"..I don't know if I mentioned it before, but the year of the move to the new house, both my eldest daughter and I received an inheritance from our fathers, of 34,000. The gematria for inheritance, 93... factored into the time from death to the burial of the ashes of both fathers so there is that "filtering" theme of the ashes you mentioned, with the burnt offerings.)

This will seem terribly subjective to some, but as you say, it's all in how you view the elephant in the room:-)

Interesting that the 220th post comes at the end of the 22nd page of this thread.

[lenvande]

Interesting that the 220th post comes at the end of the 22nd page of this thread.

Ah! I just realized the pages are organized by 10 posts each. Therefore, the 220th would naturally come at the end of the 22nd page. My mistake.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hi Richard, Len and Bob....Bob...you mentioned the 12 gates; the "220" is also the numerical weight for the doorkeeper...so in that sense, it describes a "threshold" from one realm into another.

If you recall the synchronicity surrounding my father's death in the room I was birthed in (340) on his 34034 day...he died just after sundown on the 2/20 (or the threshold of the next day)
On this same "threshold" date and time...I had two other events years apart, that pointed to the same theme. The deed for our old house, was passed to new owners...and three years later, the deed to a new house passed to us.

What was particularly interesting, was the the old house was at the foot of Mt. Tabor (in Prince George..not Israel) in the south (Tabor comes the root meaning to break or crush)...the new house, several hundred feet above Mt. Tabor facing the mountain from the north. This death/birth theme carried through in many other details surrounding that "220" and the threshold of the next or new day.

(regarding the "34"..I don't know if I mentioned it before, but the year of the move to the new house, both my eldest daughter and I received an inheritance from our fathers, of 34,000. The gematria for inheritance, 93... factored into the time from death to the burial of the ashes of both fathers so there is that "filtering" theme of the ashes you mentioned, with the burnt offerings.)

This will seem terribly subjective to some, but as you say, it's all in how you view the elephant in the room:-)

Hey there Kathryn,

I'm seeing some very intriguing stuff here. The word translated as "doorkeeper" is actually a denominative verb meaning "to stand at the threshold." Thus, there is a big difference in the numerical value of the triliteral root SPP = 220 and the way it is written in the text, namely:

Doorkeeper (הסתופף , histopheph) = 631

The Number 631 is prime. It is the value of a number of closely related ideas, most notably this identity from Psalm 118:20:

The Gate of the Lord ( השער ליהוה , HaSha'ar L'YHVH) = 631

And to top it off, the ultimate "gate" to God is death which, along with birth, is one of the two universal doors (Dalet) of which you spoke:

Death ( θανατος , Thanatos) = 631

The numbers 34 and 34034 both resonate strongly with Dalet = 434.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Ah! I just realized the pages are organized by 10 posts each. Therefore, the 220th would naturally come at the end of the 22nd page. My mistake.

Yeah, the number of posts per page is defaulted to 10. I could change it to anything I want. That's why I tend to refrain from reporting those kinds of coincidences - I don't want to clog up the airwaves with too much potential "noise" since that would block the "message." But on the other hand, we don't want to have the "noise filter" set so high that it blocks the message either! So it's a kind of "semantic yoga" where we seek to find the optimal signal to noise ratio.

[lenvande]

So the giving hand is The Father, Kaph: 20,..Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

You're making so many excellent points, Bob, that I'm going to break up my responses to those that especially stood out to me.

Father of light/s = 13 + 207 = 220

Also, some other interesting comparisons between 22 and 220 identities:

22

GDYH - Female goat
ChTH - Wheat

220

KR - Lamb
MTsTs - To be unleavened

The Feast of Unleavened Bread celebrated the barley harvest while the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost celebrated the wheat harvest. The bread of the first was baked without leaven while the bread of the second was leavened. These feasts represent the first and second resurrections. The barley harvest as represented by MTsTs = 220 will receive its reward first and in abundance. The second general resurrection will result in the separation of wheat (ChTCh = 22) and chaff.

Likewise, regarding the second resurrection, Christ says in Matthew 25:31-46 (YLT),

31 `And whenever the Son of Man may come in his glory, and all the holy messengers with him, then he shall sit upon a throne of his glory;

32 and gathered together before him shall be all the nations, and he shall separate them from one another, as the shepherd doth separate the sheep from the goats,

33 and he shall set the sheep indeed on his right hand, and the goats on the left.

34 `Then shall the king say to those on his right hand, Come ye, the blessed of my Father, inherit the reign that hath been prepared for you from the foundation of the world;

35 for I did hunger, and ye gave me to eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and ye received me;

36 naked, and ye put around me; I was infirm, and ye looked after me; in prison I was, and ye came unto me.

37 `Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, and we nourished? or thirsting, and we gave to drink?

38 and when did we see thee a stranger, and we received? or naked, and we put around?

39 and when did we see thee infirm, or in prison, and we came unto thee?

40 `And the king answering, shall say to them, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] to one of these my brethren -- the least -- to me ye did [it].

41 Then shall he say also to those on the left hand, Go ye from me, the cursed, to the fire, the age-during, that hath been prepared for the Devil and his messengers;

42 for I did hunger, and ye gave me not to eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me not to drink;

43 a stranger I was, and ye did not receive me; naked, and ye put not around me; infirm, and in prison, and ye did not look after me.

44 `Then shall they answer, they also, saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, or thirsting, or a stranger, or naked, or infirm, or in prison, and we did not minister to thee?

45 `Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of these, the least, ye did [it] not to me.

46 And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.'

In the beginning of the same chapter of Matthew, Jesus says that the wise virgins who were ready with their lamp oil were admitted to the wedding feast and the wise servants who doubled their master's original investment with them were admitted into the joy of their lord. These inherit the Kingdom Age and thus the greater portion.

The sheep at the second resurrection inherit next but not in as great proportion as the wise virgins and servants. The goats are resurrected but go to age-during fire. More on this in my next post.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

You're making so many excellent points, Bob, that I'm going to break up my responses to those that especially stood out to me.

Father of light/s = 13 + 207 = 220

That's a beautiful identity. Avi Aur = 220.

All this talk of 220 made me go back and look at the identities I had listed under that number. The "sure foundation" (musad mussad) looks particularly interesting because musad is spelled MVSD which is a VS (Vav Samek) = 66 sandwiched between a MD = 44. The value of wheel (galgal) = 66 and that's the number of books in the Bible.

And both are factors in the Key = 528 = 8 x 66 = 12 x 44.

[Bob May]

You're making so many excellent points, Bob, that I'm going to break up my responses to those that especially stood out to me.

Father of light/s = 13 + 207 = 220

Also, some other interesting comparisons between 22 and 220 identities:

22

GDYH - Female goat
ChTH - Wheat

220

KR - Lamb
MTsTs - To be unleavened

The Feast of Unleavened Bread celebrated the barley harvest while the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost celebrated the wheat harvest. The bread of the first was baked without leaven while the bread of the second was leavened. These feasts represent the first and second resurrections. The barley harvest as represented by MTsTs = 220 will receive its reward first and in abundance. The second general resurrection will result in the separation of wheat (ChTCh = 22) and chaff.

Likewise, regarding the second resurrection, Christ says in Matthew 25:31-46 (YLT),


In the beginning of the same chapter of Matthew, Jesus says that the wise virgins who were ready with their lamp oil were admitted to the wedding feast and the wise servants who doubled their master's original investment with them were admitted into the joy of their lord. These inherit the Kingdom Age and thus the greater portion.

The sheep at the second resurrection inherit next but not in as great proportion as the wise virgins and servants. The goats are resurrected but go to age-during fire. More on this in my next post.

Hi Len, Richard, Kathryn and all,

I didn't know that about the leavened and unleavened/wheat and barley. But it makes perfect sense.

Jesus makes a case for Leaven in the parable of the leavened dough.
Mt 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Bk
Chpt
Vs

Isaiah 28:16
Verse # = 18181 | Words = 18 | Letters = 64
Data from Strong's Concordance
KJV Hebrew Strong's # Value
Therefore thus saith אמר H0559 'amar 241
the Lord אדני H0136 'Adonay 65
GOD, יהוה H3069 Yehovih 26
Behold, I lay יסד H3245 yacad 74
in Zion ציון H6726 Tsiyown 156
for a foundation a stone, אבן H0068 'eben 53 a tried בחן H0976 bochan 60
stone, אבן H0068 'eben 53
a precious יקר H3368 yaqar 310
corner פנה H6438 pinnah 135
stone, a sure יסד H3245 yacad 74
foundation: מוסד H4143 muwcad 110 he that believeth אמן H0539 'aman 91
shall not make haste. חוש H2363 chuwsh 314

Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.


Isaiah 52:12
Verse # = 18709 | Words = 14 | Letters = 59
Data from Strong's Concordance
KJV Hebrew Strong's # Value
For ye shall not go out יצא H3318 yatsa' 101
with haste, חפזון H2649 chippazown 151
nor go ילך H3212 yalak 60
by flight: מנוסה H4499 menuwcah 161
for the LORD יהוה H3068 Yehovah 26
will go הלך H1980 halak 55
before פנים H6440 paniym 180
you; and the God אלהים H0430 'elohiym 86
of Israel ישראל H3478 Yisra'el 541
will be your rereward. אסף H0622 'acaph 141

Isa 52:12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your rereward.

The foundation is Eben,..stone,.. Aleph, Beth, Nun.
It is also Father, AB and Son, Ben. Which is exactly what I showed in my last post.
The giving hand of the Father through the giving hand of the Son,..That is the foundation.

But the not making haste is the thing I was trying to point out.
The reason for there not being leaven in the first Passover out of Egypt was that there was no time for the leaven to rise.
The old "leaven"= "doctrines" must be got rid of by fire.
Mt 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Leaven is Doctrine,..Good, Bad or Ugly!!!

To realize we are in the Kingdom of Heaven now we must get rid of our doctrine and cleave to the Doctrine of Jesus which is the doctrine of the Father.
Mr 4:2 And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

It takes a while to replace our unbelieving doctrine with His. After all Jesus does not come to people now days and speak to them, right???
Not if they are unwilling to listen.
And running throughout this Doctrine of the Father through the son, Jesus is Grace,... 5.
Almost every number we have come up with, as shown by Deb, can be divide by 5.

The children of Israel left Egypt in haste, but it took 40 years to get through the wilderness and enter the Promised land. And in the process a whole generation of Israelites were replaced by a new generation. ("Till the whole was leavened")
That is our world view changing. It has to be completely replaced by the new foundation based on Grace and the foundation that the promises that were made will be and are being kept.

Isa 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
Isa 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good,(= Grace..) that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! (= the Kingdom of Heaven.)

So, when is that day???

Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Joh 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

Bob

[Bob May]

Hi all,

I'll be going to Texas very early tomorrow morning and will be there until Friday.
I don't know if I will have access to a computer or not so I might not be able to respond to threads.
I do have a Kindle that my son got me for Christmas so I will try to keep up with the conversations as much as possible.
But my postings may be short.
I hope you all have a great start to the New Year!

Bob