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    Quote Originally Posted by Facterd View Post
    I misspelled the abbreviation. On the title page of NT there is one apostle referred to as 'Matth.' (the one you showed a picture of) and another referred to as 'Math.' (with only one t). It is the one referred to as 'Math.' who is carrying a carpenter’s square:

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    Although 'Matthias' is spelled with two ts in KJV (Acts 1:23 & 1:26), the abbreviation is 'Math.' I can’t avoid speculating about a connection between 'Math.' and 'Mathematics'.
    I believe "MATH" is referring to Matthew, not Matthias, based on the listing of MATH being in the middle with the more 'prominent' disciples, versus being the last one, since Matthias did become the last of the 12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Christian View Post
    I believe "MATH" is referring to Matthew, not Matthias, based on the listing of MATH being in the middle with the more 'prominent' disciples, versus being the last one, since Matthias did become the last of the 12.
    That's correct. The apostles on the title page follow the order listed in the Gospels:

    Mark 3:16 And Simon he surnamed Peter; And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder: 18 And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite, 19 ¶ And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Christian View Post
    I believe "MATH" is referring to Matthew, not Matthias, based on the listing of MATH being in the middle with the more 'prominent' disciples, versus being the last one, since Matthias did become the last of the 12.
    Yes, I was wrong. I found this in a book about silver and goldsmiths

    "While in Christian art the carpenter's rule is a standard attribute of the apostle Thomas, English goldsmiths invariably endowed him with the spear with which he was martyred. It is St. Matthew who, generally before 1560 and sometimes even after, is represented on apostle spoons carrying the carpenter's square to symbolize the church he is said to have built for the King of Ethiopia."

    Matthew is depicted twice, both as evangelist (sitting to the left) and as apostle (standing in the middle with the carpenter's square) on the top of the KJV title page.

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    The Genealogies' Artwork

    The artwork of "The Genealogies of the Holy Scriptures" are very intriguing and unusual. One point to note in the photos below, is the appearance of "handshakes" in certain locations throughout the 'branches' of the family trees. There are no known public explanations for the "handshakes" and what they are intended to represent.


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    One thing to notice about the different handshakes in the depictions above, is the positioning of the thumb of that can be seen.


    Below, are examples of Freemason handshakes, available over the internet:


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    Geometry on the Title Page of the 1611 KJV - I

    In the first part of my manuscript 'The Puzzles in Shakespeare’s Sonnets' I show how Francis Bacon is teaching his use of 3-4-5 triangles. (The manuscript is found here: http://www.somemanuscripts.org ).

    As I understand it, the puzzles found in Shakespeare’s sonnets are mainly meant as training and preparation for puzzles found in the 1611 KJV, using the same principles. In this post I will give a couple of examples from the title page of the 1611 KJV. A key element in the geometric constructions found on the title page is Peter’s hand holding his keys. I think the hand holding the keys can be understood as holding the keys to the decryption of the geometric puzzles. Another important element is Andrew’s cross, a figure dominating the picture.

    If we look carefully at the title page we can see that Peter is pointing with his left hand at the place where one of the pillars of the Andrew’s cross disappear behind the picture of the lamb. The image below shows that the Peter’s hand holding the keys, his pointing finger and the top of the cross makes a 3-4-5 triangle where one edge of the 3-4-5 triangle is following the slope of the pillar (3-4-5 triangles can vary in size, but they all have angles of 36.9, 53.1 and 90 degrees) .

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    The next image shows that another 3-4-5 triangle can be drawn using the other pillar of the cross and the carpenter square held by the figure we have seen has a mark on his forehead and a Mason emblem on his right hand.

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    Here is one first example of how the hand holding the keys is used. Below the hand we find 12 tents representing the 12 tribes. One of these 12 tents has the shape of a pyramid. The image below shows that a 3-4-5 triangle can be drawn connecting the hand holding the keys, the pyramid and the very tiny Mason emblem found on the right hand of the figure supposedly representing Matthew. The upper half of the Mason image has the shape of a pyramid, so the point seems to be to confirm the presence of the Mason emblem on Matthew’s right hand.

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    Geometry on the Title Page of the 1611 KJV - II

    In this post I will present a construction indicating (I would like to say proving) the presence of both Masonic and Rosicrucian elements on the title page. The main symbols for the Rosicrucians are the rose and the cross. On the image below we see that a 53,1⁰ angle (the angle found in 3-4-5 triangles) can be constructed by connecting two ornamental roses and draw a line upwards through the hand holding the keys (following the slope of one of the keys)and one of the cross pillars.

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    Constructing a similar 53,1⁰ angle at the other rose, we see that the two lines intersect at the top of the cross pillar. Geometrically I have here drawn two 3-4-5 triangles.

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    The image below shows that an equilateral triangle can be drawn with one vertex in each of the roses, and the third vertex hitting the head of the dove representing the Holy Spirit.

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    I believe what I have drawn here is the compass known from the Masonic Square & Compass emblem.

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    This is the Square & Compass RC Christian posted in a previous post

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    Signatures of Shakespeare

    There are only 6 known signatures of William Shakespeare that remain. There is much speculation on whether a person with such a non-fluent and inconsistent handwriting could have actually written any of the plays and sonnets contributed to him. Notice also, that his name isn't spelled as "Shakespeare" in any of the signatures.

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    Best guesses are each of these surviving signatures are worth between $3-6M each...not bad for chicken scratch!
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    Fascinating analysis Facterd! I wish I had more hours in the day! But keep posting ... I'll find time eventually. That's the beauty of this forum. It is a database for all this information and it's all be replicated on Google and other search engines, so it's part of the planetary mind now and forever. Remember that if you find yourself feeling tired and wondering if all your efforts are worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    That would be great.


    Thanks for the info. It's funny to think how much opposition there is from certain Christian circles given the extreme emphasis upon traditional Christians doctrines in the stuff you are posting. It's also ironic that Christians often think that the number 33 is evil because of the 33 degrees in Masonry, seemingly forgetting that the number 33 stamps both the Bible of 66 = 33 + 33 books and the life of Christ who lived to be 33 years on this earth. Prejudice and fear are mind killers.



    Those signs "of the Zodiac" are also the traditional cherubs associated with the Four Evangelists who are shown writing with their cherub beside them. They are the Four Writers in the image. I have always thought it curious that the cherubim, which go back to Ezekiel's time, align well with the four cardinal signs of the zodiac. Which came first? The astrological symbols or Ezekiel's vision? Who knows?
    Richard,

    Sorry about not responding to this earlier. I must have missed this post along the way. This evening was the first time I've seen it. In regards to the dating of which came first, the astrological symbols or Ezekiel's vision, I believe the correct answer is the astrological symbols. Most sources date the origin of the common symbols that are utilized today, in most tropical and sidereal astrology, to the Babylonians, no later than around 1000 BCE. Many sources would go as far as 1500 BCE, for the Babylonian origins of the common zodiac. I believe the best dating of Ezekiel's time in Babylonian captivity was around 600 BCE. I'm not sure about when the text, itself, is assumed to have been written.

    Among numerous Biblical commentators, in his book, The Witness of the Stars, EW Bullinger, interprets Ezekiel's 4 creatures and John's version of 4 creatures, as the fixed signs of the zodiac. The eagle that stands in the place of the more common scorpion in our day, representing Scorpio, is thought to have originated in Babylon, also. I've attached some images below of the Beit-Alfa Synagogue zodiac mosaic, that was built sometime in the 5th century CE. The Zodiac Mosaic covered the floor of the central room in the synagogue, thought to be the room of worship. The Zodiac shows the names of the 12 Signs spelled in Hebrew with a depiction of each of the traditional Signs, 4 women located in the 4 corners, representing the 4 seasons, and in the center is Helios on his Chariot, being pulled by 4 beasts, along with the Moon in the background. Along with the Zodiac, the mosaic also contains depictions of the Holy Ark of the Covenant and the Binding of Isaac.

    This archaeological finding of a Zodiac found in Jewish synagogues represents 1 of 8 discovered in recent times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Christian View Post
    Richard,

    Sorry about not responding to this earlier. I must have missed this post along the way. This evening was the first time I've seen it. In regards to the dating of which came first, the astrological symbols or Ezekiel's vision, I believe the correct answer is the astrological symbols. Most sources date the origin of the common symbols that are utilized today, in most tropical and sidereal astrology, to the Babylonians, no later than around 1000 BCE. Many sources would go as far as 1500 BCE, for the Babylonian origins of the common zodiac. I believe the best dating of Ezekiel's time in Babylonian captivity was around 600 BCE. I'm not sure about when the text, itself, is assumed to have been written.

    Among numerous Biblical commentators, in his book, The Witness of the Stars, EW Bullinger, interprets Ezekiel's 4 creatures and John's version of 4 creatures, as the fixed signs of the zodiac. The eagle that stands in the place of the more common scorpion in our day, representing Scorpio, is thought to have originated in Babylon, also. I've attached some images below of the Beit-Alfa Synagogue zodiac mosaic, that was built sometime in the 5th century CE. The Zodiac Mosaic covered the floor of the central room in the synagogue, thought to be the room of worship. The Zodiac shows the names of the 12 Signs spelled in Hebrew with a depiction of each of the traditional Signs, 4 women located in the 4 corners, representing the 4 seasons, and in the center is Helios on his Chariot, being pulled by 4 beasts, along with the Moon in the background. Along with the Zodiac, the mosaic also contains depictions of the Holy Ark of the Covenant and the Binding of Isaac.

    This archaeological finding of a Zodiac found in Jewish synagogues represents 1 of 8 discovered in recent times.
    Hey there RC,

    Thanks for those pics. I agree, Astrology came first. I wonder if Ezekiel had conscious knowledge of that, or if he was only reporting what he saw in the visions?

    The wiki has a very interesting article about Christianity and Astrology. Like the Jews, there were times when it was fully integrated into the Christian institution.

    Richard

    PS: Have you looked at how the Dumbo Dream thread is developing? It's getting pretty hot! It would be great if you could share you insights. You played a central role in the synchronicities that led to that post. I've never "brainstormed" with anyone about it before, and it's leading to lots of new insights.
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