Originally Posted by mwh
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I would like to address one point at a time, and since the objection you answered seems to be critical to the entire theory, it seems like a good place to start.
I don't think you understand what it means to be "absorbed" into the Gentiles. It's like a drop of ink in the ocean - they have been so thoroughly mixed together that every drop of water in the ocean has a little bit of the ink. In other words, essentially every "Gentile" is now a physical descendent of Abraham!
This is simple population dynamics. If an Israelite is defined as any carnal descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then almost everyone is an Israelite. This is because the ten northern tribes have been dispersed and interbreeding with the Gentiles for over 100 generations so we must conclude through population dynamics that most of the population of the planet can trace their ancestry to Jacob. This means almost all the Gentiles have been "converted" to Israelites through interbreeding!
Here's an article from ScienceDaily that explains how one scientist has concluded that everyone currently living - that's all of us - are descended from a relatively small set of "identical ancestors" who lived only 2000 years ago:
While we may not all be 'brothers,' the models suggest we are all hundredth cousins or so," said Joseph T. Chang, professor in the Department of Statistics at Yale University and senior author on the paper.This means that nearly every person living is a physical descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob!
Chang established the basis of this research in a previous publication with an intentionally simplified model that ignored such complexities as geography and migration. Those precise mathematical results showed that in a world obeying the simplified assumptions, the most recent common ancestor would have lived less than 1,000 years ago. He also introduced the "identical ancestors point," the most recent time -- less than 2,000 years ago in the simplified model -- when each person was an ancestor to all or ancestor to none of the people alive today.
The current paper presents more realistic mathematical and computer models. It incorporates factors such as socially driven mating, physical barriers of geography and migration, and recorded historical events. Although such complexities make pure mathematical analysis difficult, it was possible to integrate them into an elaborate computer simulation model. The computer repeatedly simulated history under varying assumptions, tracking the lives, movements, and reproduction of all people who lived within the last 20,000 years.
These more realistic models estimate that the most recent common ancestor of mankind lived as recently as about 3,000 years ago, and the identical ancestors point was as recent as several thousand years ago. The paper suggests, "No matter the languages we speak or the color of our skin, we share ancestors who planted rice on the banks of the Yangtze, who first domesticated horses on the steppes of the Ukraine, who hunted giant sloths in the forests of North and South America, and who labored to build the Great Pyramid of Khufu."
If your theory of an "Israel according to the flesh" is going to stand, I do beleive you will have to overcome this objectiion.
All the best,