Shadows of Christ

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hi Richard,

You're welcome. It's pretty cool when you see all of them together like that. I was blown away when I first saw it. I wonder where else we can find "better"

in the Bible?

5 minutes later. There are a whole bunch of verses with "better" in it. Some really interesting ones but far too many to delve into tonight, er, rather this morning.

Rick

That's correct. In the OT, the most occurrences are found in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. In the NT, the most occurrences are found in Hebrews (about 1/3 of the total).

[TheDivineWatermark]

Hi Richard,

You're welcome. It's pretty cool when you see all of them together like that. I was blown away when I first saw it. I wonder where else we can find "better"

in the Bible?

5 minutes later. There are a whole bunch of verses with "better" in it. Some really interesting ones but far too many to delve into tonight, er, rather this morning.

Rick

Your post reminded me of another fascinating NT word, which is "excel" and its variants. One that struck me, at one point, just as you describe about the word "better."

Such as in Philippians 1:10, "That ye may approve [prove] things that are excellent [Strong's G1308]"

Apparently, there are 7 different Greek words in the NT (in addition to G1308):

http://www.blueletterbible.org/searc...a=excel&st=any

A good study.

[heb13-13]

Jesus is an eternal priest who offers bread and wine, which became his very body and blood.

[Bob May]

Hi gentlemen,

I see the opening of our understanding symbolised by the number 14.
Circumcision of the heart.

Mt 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

These three are major changes in our understanding of Scripture as are all of the forefathers and line of Jesus.

Ge 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

I look at this as a promise rather than a commandment. "He.. shall be circumcised."

Eight signifies the first day of a New Covenant. Seven being Covenant or week.

1/10 is that which returns to God or "one with God." one being the individual and zero being God.

The three fourteens add up to 42. It has to do with being fed by God. Spiritual food. That is how we are washed. (baptised) and this also relates to the three groups of fourteen. We are washed in three distinct ways.

Mt 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Re 12:6 And the woman fled into the WILDERNESS, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Re 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the WILDERNESS, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent

1260 divided by 360 (a "prophetic year?") equals 3 1/2 years.
A "time" being a year,.. then a time and times and half a time also equals 3 1/2 years.
Or 42 months which is the three fourteens.

So we are not only fed (nourished) by the word we are washed by it and also recieving the body and blood of Christ by it.

Lu 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Lu 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

The blood is the life, the scarlet thread that runs through the generations.
The life that gives the word the power to change us and feed us spiritually.
We are the woman in the wilderness being fed.

That's all I got for now,
Bob

[gilgal]

We look at David a shepherd busy with his work while Samuel came to anoint God's chosen to be king in 1Samuel 16.

Jesus was a shepherd of men.

And while he was king he was the best example history could ever tell of a godly king, not being bribed but pleasing God entirely.

[Bob May]

We look at David a shepherd busy with his work while Samuel came to anoint God's chosen to be king in 1Samuel 16.

Jesus was a shepherd of men.

And while he was king he was the best example history could ever tell of a godly king, not being bribed but pleasing God entirely.

David also is a type of Jesus in that he was a Champion.
When he went out to meet Goliath one on one they were Champions of their respective nations.
In other words what they did on that battlefield counted for everyone standing behind them. David won, the battle was finished.

This is illustrative of the doctrine of imputed righteousness. What Jesus did on the cross counted for all believers. (Israel)
Bob

[Richard Amiel McGough]

And while he was king he was the best example history could ever tell of a godly king, not being bribed but pleasing God entirely.

Hummm ... I'm not sure a murderous adulteror was really that great of an example.

[gilgal]

Hummm ... I'm not sure a murderous adulteror was really that great of an example.

Well... except for that of course. But scripture is written in a way that no one in the Bible except for Jesus has shown perfection. We don't like it when someone talks against us or writes against us. But scripture writes against the kings but keeps the balance. It points out where King David went wrong even though while David was living he seemed to assume that since he has the absolute authority he can easily get Bathsheba and kill off her husband. But even though he succeeded he regretted it because the punishment was too heavy. God didn't kill him off because he had promised that the messiah would come out of the lineage of David, if the next son hadn't been born yet (I think it was Nathan and not Solomon who was the ancestor of Jesus Christ). God can't break unconditional promises. Or if he had been born then simply God was gracious to David.

But David showed faith in any ways:
He killed Goliath by a stone;
He as persecuted by Saul but didn't lift up his hand against him even though he had many chances to do so.

But these thing don't make him uniquely a type of Christ.

He had the anointing of kingship while Saul was alive and later persecuted him. But here's an example of evil turning into good. Saul promised to give him his daughter if he slew the Philistines hoping that he would die. God helped him win get married and take over the throne. Saul's sons died in battle so that gave him the right to the throne.

[heb13-13]

David is a type of walking in the Spirit entrusting himself to God and Saul was a type of the flesh.

David actually had a chance to kill Saul and did not. Do we all walk in the Spirit at all times? We all have exhibited hearts of iron and feet of clay. We ARE what God has to work with. And the mystery of godliness (God inhabiting man) is incredible. Just as astonishing is the mystery of iniquity (Satan inhabiting man).

Have we all committed murder (hatred) and adultery (lust)? Yes.

Is any man able to have a "heart after God?"

I don't know if the Armor of God is a type of Christ as much as it is Christ Himself for New Covenant Believers. I suppose since the pieces of the armor are spoken of as objects (sword, helmet, breastplate), then they are meant to typify something and to me it is Christ.

There are the usual types such as Abel, Moses, the Ark, Abraham, Cities of Refuge, First-Fruits, Jonah, Jacob's Ladder, Mercy Seat, Manna, etc, etc. But I have never heard anyone say the Armor is a type of Christ.

Here is why I believe it is.

Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Rom 13:14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

And when you look at the armor, each one typifies Jesus Christ. Sword of the Spirit (He is the Word of God), Helmet of Salvation (He is our salvation), Breastplate of Righteouness (He is our Righteousness), Shoes of Peace (He is our peace), etc, etc. You can actully find scriptures which show that He is each one of these things. When we "put on the Lord Jesus Christ", we are putting on the WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD.

Didn't Saul give his armor to David and David tried it on and then refused it because it was not tested or proven?

And Saul armed David with his armour, and he put an helmet of brass upon his head; also he armed him with a coat of mail. 1Sa 17:38

And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him. 1Sa 17:39

You can be sure that David went forth with something that HE HAD PROVED.

All David needed was a "stone" and to go forth in the "Name of the Lord of Hosts."

He had proven the Name of the Lord of Hosts in battles as a shepherd, protecting the sheep from a bear and a lion. (Satan goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour).

Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied. 1Sa 17:45

Rick

[Richard Amiel McGough]

David is a type of walking in the Spirit entrusting himself to God and Saul was a type of the flesh.

Yep - that typology manifests strongly on Spoke 9, as explained in this section of the Bible Wheel book:

Spoke 9 - Good vs. Evil, Spirit vs. Flesh: Saul persecutes David