Ann Graham Lotz says we are the last generation of Luke 21

[TheForgiven]

Hi folks! Wow! Now we've got Billy Graham's daughter, Ann Graham Lotz, teaching on Fox News last night that we are the last generation before Christ's return because we witnesses the rebirth of Israel. This doctrine is so wrong that it deserves strong ridicule.

To me, it's borderline Blasphemous to say that modern day geographical Israel is a rebirth of God's Israel. At no time in Biblical history has God ever permitted the Israelite's to return to their land while being loaded with sins, and rejecting Christ all-together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKM8ceX6RE

I posted the link to her video.

Sound off Church!

Joe

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Hi folks! Wow! Now we've got Billy Graham's daughter, Ann Graham Lotz, teaching on Fox News last night that we are the last generation before Christ's return because we witnesses the rebirth of Israel. This doctrine is so wrong that it deserves strong ridicule.

To me, it's borderline Blasphemous to say that modern day geographical Israel is a rebirth of God's Israel. At no time in Biblical history has God ever permitted the Israelite's to return to their land while being loaded with sins, and rejecting Christ all-together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKM8ceX6RE

I posted the link to her video.

Sound off Church!

Joe

Thanks for the link.

But I don't think I would characterize it as "blasphemous." It's totally understandable why weak-minded folks would be taken in by such deception. But look at what she said!

"I read what Jesus said in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 and I take what he said and I match it with what's happening in the world today. And Governor Huckabee, I say this very seriously, I believe we are living in the last generation of human history. I believe that's my generation. And I believe that generation ... there are two distinctives of that generation which Jesus gave. One is the rebirth of the nation of Israel, and Israel was born ... reborn in 1948. And that's the month that I was born, so that's my generation. And then the other distinctive is that the gospel would be preached to the whole world. And right now the gospel is being preached to the whole world. And you couple that with the other signs that Jesus gave that he said would take place within the same generation - not dribbled out over the centuries - but taking place in the same generation he said that that's the generation that would see all these things fulfilled. ... I believe Jesus is the Son of God and I take Him at his word."

She takes him at his word? Ha! She totally perverted "his word" and said that "this generation" really means "that generation"! And then she makes a big deal that "all these things" would be fulfilled, forgetting that those things were centered on the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD! This is the insanity of Christianity. Folks declare that they love the truth even as they trample it under foot!

So there it is. This big public figure, daughter of the most famous preacher of the twentieth century, can't tell the difference between this and that! And she get's air time on one of the biggest cable news shows. What a load of braindead bullshit.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Surfing around I found this article

9/11 Attacks: God's Punishment on Americans? Brunson, Falwell, Graham-Lotz Say So

She's out there with the far-far-far-right freaky fundamentalist crowd ....

[TheForgiven]

Thanks for the link.

But I don't think I would characterize it as "blasphemous." It's totally understandable why weak-minded folks would be taken in by such deception. But look at what she said!

"I read what Jesus said in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 and I take what he said and I match it with what's happening in the world today. And Governor Huckabee, I say this very seriously, I believe we are living in the last generation of human history. I believe that's my generation. And I believe that generation ... there are two distinctives of that generation which Jesus gave. One is the rebirth of the nation of Israel, and Israel was born ... reborn in 1948. And that's the month that I was born, so that's my generation. And then the other distinctive is that the gospel would be preached to the whole world. And right now the gospel is being preached to the whole world. And you couple that with the other signs that Jesus gave that he said would take place within the same generation - not dribbled out over the centuries - but taking place in the same generation he said that that's the generation that would see all these things fulfilled. ... I believe Jesus is the Son of God and I take Him at his word."

She takes him at his word? Ha! She totally perverted "his word" and said that "this generation" really means "that generation"! And then she makes a big deal that "all these things" would be fulfilled, forgetting that those things were centered on the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD! This is the insanity of Christianity. Folks declare that they love the truth even as they trample it under foot!

So there it is. This big public figure, daughter of the most famous preacher of the twentieth century, can't tell the difference between this and that! And she get's air time on one of the biggest cable news shows. What a load of braindead bullshit.

I know exactly what you mean my friend. However, I wouldn't place this as a fault with Christianity. Rather, it's a fault of Christians who, like infants, misunderstand the word, or were perhaps influenced since childhood, with teachings passed down from their parents, friends, or relatives.

What's so astonishing is that she claims she takes Jesus at His word, when in truth, you and I both know that she doesn't. She misunderstands the words of Jesus, and usurps a non-contextual idea about the nation of Israel, which has absolutely nothing to do with the context. [don't you love my run-on sentences? ]

By the way, that's me posting on Youtube, and she replied, "I respectfully disagree" to my post.

Joe

[CWH]

I know exactly what you mean my friend. However, I wouldn't place this as a fault with Christianity. Rather, it's a fault of Christians who, like infants, misunderstand the word, or were perhaps influenced since childhood, with teachings passed down from their parents, friends, or relatives.

What's so astonishing is that she claims she takes Jesus at His word, when in truth, you and I both know that she doesn't. She misunderstands the words of Jesus, and usurps a non-contextual idea about the nation of Israel, which has absolutely nothing to do with the context. [don't you love my run-on sentences? ]

By the way, that's me posting on Youtube, and she replied, "I respectfully disagree" to my post.

Joe

I too respectfully disagree with your post and I fully agree with Ann Graham as most Christians would. Isn't Preterists equally blasphemous by saying that Jesus already came in AD 70 and He will never come back again?

God Blessings to all. Amen.

[TheForgiven]

I too respectfully disagree with your post and I fully agree with Ann Graham as most Christians would. Isn't Preterists equally blasphemous by saying that Jesus already came in AD 70 and He will never come back again?

God Blessings to all. Amen.

Oh please CWH. You should know by now that there's no such thing is a restoration of secular Israel, especially when there are no Israelite's to inhabit that society. If Israel was reborn in 1948, then how do you explain the mass anti-God behavior over there? Is that the working of God? to restore a nation of sinners into sinners?

Luke 21 mentions absolutely nothing about the rebirth of Israel. That is an inference from the idea of a budding fig tree, which was not in reference to a future generation who would witness Israel's rebirth. The fig tree was in reference CONTEXTUALLY, without inference, to the destruction of Jerusalem. When Jesus gave them a list of events to look for, they would know that the destruction of the temple was near, just as the fig tree budding leaves lets you know that spring is near. Subsequently, the horrible events were indicative of a woman travailing in pain, as she prepares to give birth to a new life. The same with the disasters that came upon them; the destruction of Jerusalem would give birth to a new age; the age of the Church.

All of this is perfectly contextual.

Now as for Blasphemy? That was probably an exaggerated choice of words. By stating that she takes Christ at His words, she shows that she's a liar because Jesus never mentioned any word about a restored secular Israel. Read Luke 21, and you'll see no reference of the Fig Tree representing the rebirth of Israel. Finally, as I've already proven to you, when Jesus said that all of those events would happen upon their generation (just as He stated in Matthew 23), how could anyone then willfully change the meaning of "this generation" in direct contrast to the other examples of "this generation"? This is not taking Christ at His word, but changing the words of Christ to fit their own paradigm. In truth, she is stating what Jesus never said.

Joe

[CWH]

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Oh please CWH. You should know by now that there's no such thing is a restoration of secular Israel, especially when there are no Israelite's to inhabit that society. If Israel was reborn in 1948, then how do you explain the mass anti-God behavior over there? Is that the working of God? to restore a nation of sinners into sinners?

Anti-God behavior happens almost everywhere not just in Israel. If israel is not significant in history why are people wanting to possess the holy land....the Crusades, Moslem empire, Romans etc. Why is it that till today Israel's neighbors also want to possess Israel and wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Do you think God will allow the Gentiles to trample on His Holy Land?

Luke 21 mentions absolutely nothing about the rebirth of Israel. That is an inference from the idea of a budding fig tree, which was not in reference to a future generation who would witness Israel's rebirth. The fig tree was in reference CONTEXTUALLY, without inference, to the destruction of Jerusalem. When Jesus gave them a list of events to look for, they would know that the destruction of the temple was near, just as the fig tree budding leaves lets you know that spring is near. Subsequently, the horrible events were indicative of a woman travailing in pain, as she prepares to give birth to a new life. The same with the disasters that came upon them; the destruction of Jerusalem would give birth to a new age; the age of the Church.

All of this is perfectly contextual.

Now as for Blasphemy? That was probably an exaggerated choice of words. By stating that she takes Christ at His words, she shows that she's a liar because Jesus never mentioned any word about a restored secular Israel. Read Luke 21, and you'll see no reference of the Fig Tree representing the rebirth of Israel. Finally, as I've already proven to you, when Jesus said that all of those events would happen upon their generation (just as He stated in Matthew 23), how could anyone then willfully change the meaning of "this generation" in direct contrast to the other examples of "this generation"? This is not taking Christ at His word, but changing the words of Christ to fit their own paradigm. In truth, she is stating what Jesus never said.

I have also proven to you that the Fig Tree represents the rebirth of Israel. This is not my belief alone but also the belief of millions and millions of Christians throughout the world.

http://www.amazingbible.org/Document...E%20FIG%20TREE

2-IS ISRAEL THE FIG TREE?

The word "fig" is mentioned in the Scriptures sixty-four times. THUS SAITH THE LORD, THE GOD OF ISRAEL; LIKE THESE GOOD FIGS, SO WILL I ACKNOWLEDGE THEM THAT ARE CARRIED AWAY CAPTIVE OF JUDAH, WHOM I HAVE SENT OUT OF THIS PLACE INTO THE LAND OF THE CHALDEANS FOR THEIR GOOD-Jere 24:5. We see the word "figs," being used to represent the Jews that are carried away.
THE LORD SHOWED ME, AND, BEHOLD, TWO BASKETS OF FIGS...ONE BASKET HAD VERY GOOD FIGS, EVEN LIKE THE FIGS THAT ARE FIRST RIPE: AND THE OTHER BASKET HAD VERY NAUGHTY FIGS, WHICH COULD NOT BE EATEN, THEY WERE SO BAD. THEN SAID THE LORD UNTO ME, WHAT SEEST THOU, JEREMIAH? AND I SAID, FIGS; THE GOOD FIGS, VERY GOOD; AND THE EVIL, VERY EVIL, THAT CANNOT BE EATEN, THEY ARE SO EVIL. AGAIN THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME UNTO ME, SAYING, THUS SAITH THE LORD, THE GOD OF ISRAEL; LIKE THESE GOOD FIGS, SO WILL I ACKNOWLEDGE THEM THAT ARE CARRIED AWAY CAPTIVE OF JUDAH, WHOM I HAVE SENT OUT OF THIS PLACE INTO THE LAND OF THE CHALDEANS FOR THEIR GOOD. FOR I WILL SET MINE EYES UPON THEM FOR GOOD, AND I WILL BRING THEM AGAIN TO THIS LAND: AND I WILL BUILD THEM, AND NOT PULL THEM DOWN; AND I WILL PLANT THEM, AND NOT PLUCK THEM UP. AND I WILL GIVE THEM A HEART TO KNOW ME, THAT I AM THE LORD: AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE, AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD: FOR THEY SHALL RETURN UNTO ME WITH THEIR WHOLE HEART. AND AS THE EVIL FIGS, WHICH CANNOT BE EATEN, THEY ARE SO EVIL-Jere 24:1-8. The word "figs" is used here eight times denoting the Jews.
NOW IN THE MORNING AS HE RETURNED INTO THE CITY, HE HUNGERED. AND WHEN HE SAW A FIG TREE IN THE WAY, HE CAME TO IT, AND FOUND NOTHING THEREON, BUT LEAVES ONLY, AND SAID UNTO IT, LET NO FRUIT GROW ON THEE HENCEFORWARD FOR EVER. AND PRESENTLY THE FIG TREE WITHERED AWAY-Mt 21:18,19; ref Mk 11:12-14,20,21. The fig tree withered away, as it was producing no fruit. It may be noted that the word "fig" here represents Israel, and the word "tree" represents nation.
The nation of Israel did wither and was destroyed. Nevertheless, the nation of Israel was reborn and will fulfill God’s mission during the Tribulation.
THEREFORE HIS HEIGHT WAS EXALTED ABOVE ALL THE TREES OF THE FIELD (or nations)…THE CEDARS IN THE GARDEN OF GOD COULD NOT HIDE HIM: THE FIR TREES WERE NOT LIKE HIS BOUGHS, AND THE CHESTNUT TREES WERE NOT LIKE HIS BRANCHES; NOR ANY TREE IN THE GARDEN OF GOD WAS LIKE UNTO HIM IN HIS BEAUTY. I HAVE MADE HIM FAIR BY THE MULTITUDE OF HIS BRANCHES: SO THAT ALL THE TREES OF EDEN, THAT WERE IN THE GARDEN OF GOD, ENVIED HIM. AND STRANGERS, THE TERRIBLE OF THE NATIONS, HAVE CUT HIM OFF, AND HAVE LEFT HIM…TO THE END THAT NONE OF ALL THE TREES (or nations) BY THE WATERS EXALT THEMSELVES FOR THEIR HEIGHT…AND I CAUSED LEBANON TO MOURN FOR HIM, AND ALL THE TREES OF THE FIELD FAINTED FOR HIM. I MADE THE NATIONS TO SHAKE AT THE SOUND OF HIS FALL-Ezek 31:5,8,9,12,14-16. It may be noted, the word "tree" is often used as a symbol for a nation.

(Scripture with commentary)

NOW LEARN A PARABLE (or a lesson) OF THE FIG TREE (of the Israeli nation). (Note, the Israeli nation had to be reborn. Without this key event being in place, no other prophecy of the latter days meant anything.) WHEN HIS BRANCH IS YET TENDER, AND PUTTETH FORTH LEAVES (the branch on the tree becomes tender after the long, cold winter. When Israel is yet tender and puts forth leaves—this indicates the spring time), YE KNOW THAT SUMMER IS NIGH. (When one would see the Israeli nation come forth, and his branches tender, and leaves coming forth, you would know summer is near or you would know that certain things are near.) SO LIKEWISE YE, WHEN YE SHALL SEE ALL THESE THINGS (the list of things that Jesus just gave in the previous verses), KNOW THAT IT IS NEAR, EVEN AT THE DOORS. (Again, we see the command to know that certain events are at the doors and are going to happen almost immediately, as already covered in previous pages.)
VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, THIS GENERATION (the generation of the fig tree, the generation of the Israeli nation) SHALL NOT PASS, TILL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED. ("All these things" includes the rebirth of Israel, the Tribulation, the Battle of Armageddon, the return of Jesus Christ, and the gathering together of the elect. All these things would happen during the period of this generation.)-Mt 24:32-34; ref Mk 13:28-30.
The verses, in Lk 21:28-32, can be broken down into four parts. First, your redemption drawing near is referring to the Rapture. It is then followed by the second part, which is seeing and knowing certain things such as the times we are in, when the nation of Israel and other nations shoot forth. (It is interesting to note that the Rapture and the nations shooting forth are both referred to.) All of this is prior to the Tribulation. These nations have now come forth.
The third part is when you see certain other things come to pass to know that the kingdom of God is at hand. The fourth part is showing that the generation of the fig tree shall not pass till all the things Jesus told us about are fulfilled.
AND WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN TO COME TO PASS (we are to see or look for certain things to come to pass), THEN LOOK UP, AND LIFT UP YOUR HEADS; FOR YOUR REDEMPTION (or the Rapture) DRAWETH NIGH.
AND HE SPAKE TO THEM A PARABLE (or a lesson); BEHOLD THE FIG TREE, AND ALL THE TREES; WHEN THEY NOW SHOOT FORTH. (Behold the Israeli nation and all the nations that were to shoot forth.) Thus, the rebirth of the nation of Israel had to take place. In addition, other nations had to also be in place. The primary list of other nations are listed in Ezekiel chapter 38, but there are also others such as Isa chapters 17-19. These nations would include Russia, Iran, Ethiopia, Libya, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, and other nations. Every tree (or nation) is now in place. YE SEE AND KNOW OF YOUR OWN SELVES THAT SUMMER IS NOW NIGH AT HAND. In other words, when you see the Israeli nation and the other nations come forth, you KNOW summer is at hand. You should know the times we are in. There should be no doubt. Note, first the Rapture is mentioned (your redemption), which is connected with the Israeli nation and the other nations shooting forth. By this, know the times we are in, know the Rapture is at hand, and know the next events will follow, which include the Tribulation. We are also reminded when these things "begin" to come to pass. Thus, we can look for some of the events of the Tribulation to begin to come to pass, even as birth pangs of a women.
Then there is the next category of two parts. This includes the list of events Jesus gave, which consists of the Tribulation and His second coming. The gathering of the elect is omitted. And when these come to pass, you know that the kingdom of God is near at hand. Mt 24 and Mk 13, include the elect being gathered, but the kingdom of God is omitted. In Lk 21, the gathering of the elect is omitted, but the kingdom of God is included. The elect are gathered during the time that is referred to as "the kingdom of God is nigh at hand."
SO LIKEWISE YE, WHEN YE SEE THESE THINGS COME TO PASS (these things are including the long list Jesus had given prior to this parable), KNOW YE THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NIGH AT HAND. (Jesus shall reign on the earth.) VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS AWAY (the generation of the fig tree, the Israeli nation), TILL ALL BE FULFILLED (which includes the Tribulation and the second coming of Jesus).


Many God Blessings to all.

[EndtimesDeut32/70AD]

Hi folks! Wow! Now we've got Billy Graham's daughter, Ann Graham Lotz, teaching on Fox News last night that we are the last generation before Christ's return because we witnesses the rebirth of Israel. This doctrine is so wrong that it deserves strong ridicule.

To me, it's borderline Blasphemous to say that modern day geographical Israel is a rebirth of God's Israel. At no time in Biblical history has God ever permitted the Israelite's to return to their land while being loaded with sins, and rejecting Christ all-together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKM8ceX6RE

I posted the link to her video.

Sound off Church!

Joe

This is sad..

Coincidently, I caught one of BG's sermons from what looked like the '60's or early '70's on TV as a re-run on Sat or Sun night. He said that had gone to Pastors all over the globe asking them if there were any hope for the world... No, they said.... the only hope for the world is the return of Jesus Christ .... they said...and it was coming soon.... Then he went on to preach a better get ready message.

I guess according to them, he [Jesus, the creator incarnate] didnt' get it done the first time??

I didnt' realize that the 'end times' message was such part of his teaching; and it may not have been when he started. I thought he used to preach out of the gospels of a positive message and a changed life of emulating Christ.

How contrasting is that message with the message of Hope, life, power, love and the continuation of the [spiritual] seed and example of the man renamed Israel till the cows come home... no.. for as long as the ordinances of heaven continue.

What hope and future does this give young people to experience God and life to it's fullest and abundance or to work for positive impact and the divinity of life.

With the adoption as sons comes power and responsibilty of impact and effect for good.

How does Paul say:....Romans 10:5ff... Don't look to the heavens to bring Christ down, nor to the earth to bring Christ up from the dead; the WORD, Jesus, is in you, in your mouth and in your heart.

Is the teaching the future message of the return of Christ to save the world the same as rejecting and denying his [is come in the flesh], his instructions, and the indwelling of the heart AND actually part of the spirit of anti-[against]-christ and anti-life; anti-god, anti-good?

I agree that it is the result of false teachings, doctrines and interpretations. She [they] may not know any different. It may be the culmination of 2000 yrs of censorship and even hellenist influencing the ECF's.

Here's a quote from Samuel Lee from the early 1800's.

There is moreover, another evil attending this progress of prophetical interpretation : it is this: As much is thus carried out into futurity, it has unhappily been determined, that, not only a great part, but that the most glorious part, of prophecy remains yet to be fulfilled. The consequence of this again necessarily is, that something better than what we now have is expected to take place; and hence, that Christianity, as we have it, is not the glorious system foretold by the Prophets: and again, that another and better Dispensation is to supersede that taught and established by the Apostles! This, though not holden by all, is by very many; and consistently so. It is the genuine result of the grounds taken : and it is a bad one; and such as might naturally be expected from the adoption of bad principles.

Another consideration, of great moment, has likewise grown out of all this; and, as far as I am able to judge, is equally groundless as to authority, and bad as to consequence. It is the adoption of judaizing principles, and then the arriving at judaizing results ; both of these greatly affecting Christianity, and tending marvellously to obscure the letter of Scripture, and to destroy the evidences to its truth. In this case, we have the period for the restoration of the Jews to Palestine, determined by a cabbalistic process of Rabbinism ; and, of necessity, subject to all its uncertainty. Then again, a sort of pre-eminence is ascribed to the Jews, so restored; and Christianity is injured, both as to its claims and its power, just in proportion as the Jew is advanced, and his system is extolled.

[TheForgiven]

This is sad..

Coincidently, I caught one of BG's sermons from what looked like the '60's or early '70's on TV as a re-run on Sat or Sun night. He said that had gone to Pastors all over the globe asking them if there were any hope for the world... No, they said.... the only hope for the world is the return of Jesus Christ .... they said...and it was coming soon.... Then he went on to preach a better get ready message.

I guess according to them, he [Jesus] didnt' get it done the first time??

I didnt' realize that the 'end times' message was such part of his teaching; and it may not have been when he started. I thought he used to preach out of the gospels of a positive message and a changed life of emulating Christ. I did know that he was associated with presidents and some jews and word had it the masonic order.

How contrasting is that message with the message of Hope, life, power, love and the continuation of the [spiritual] seed and example of the man renamed Israel till the cows come home... no.. for as long as the ordinances of heaven continue.

What hope and future does this give young people to experience God and life to it's fullest and abundance or to work for positive impact and the divinity of life.

With the adoption as sons comes power and responsibilty of impact and effect for good. These gloomers and doomers weaken, rob steal, kill and destroy.

How does Paul say:....Romans 10:5ff... Don't look to the heavens to bring Christ down, nor to the earth to bring Christ up from the dead; the WORD, Jesus, is in you, in your mouth and in your heart.

Is the teaching the future message of the return of Christ to save the world the same as rejecting his previous coming, instructions, salvation, lordship and the indwelling of the heart AND actually part of the spirit of anti-christ and anti-life; anti-god, anti-good?

I agree that it is the result of false teachings, doctrines and interpretations. She [they] may not know any different. It may be the culmination of 2000 yrs of censorship and even hellenist influencing the ECF's.

Here's a quote from Samuel Lee from the early 1800's.

I couldn't have stated this any better my friend. And I fully agree with what Samuel Lee wrote. It's quite clear that Futurism embraces the Church as a sub-standard kingdom, and not the "intended" kingdom of the Prophets. In doing so, their message thwarts the importance of repentance, the inspiration to make a better world through the message of the gospel, and instead seeks to recruit a band of believers who's message is simply to "get ready". Get ready for what? How do you get ready? By searching for signs, thereby creating huge stumbling blocks to not only ourselves, but to others as well? This is one reason why I wanted to discontinue debating eschatology because I've spend more than 15 years debating these topics, only to find myself drifting from what's really important in my life; repentance, and saving souls by the message of the gospels.

Futurism, in my opinion, has a false sense of urgency; the teaching to reduce the importance of the Church as nothing more than a temporal community designed to collect souls and await for another kingdom. This, as we all know, is very damaging testimony, not only to themselves as false teachers, but also to those whom they recruit in their rather large camps.

Finally, I too arrived at the conclusion that a few Early Church Fathers were being misled by Hellenistic Jews. It was they who introduced the idea that God was going to restore the nation of Israel, and bring in the true Messiah; not necessarily Jesus. And to this day, some residing in secular Israel are still hoping for this. Sadly, so-called "Christians" of the John Haggee camp are promoting their desire to seek for their Messiah, and not Jesus. These Zionist sympathizer's are ruining the testimony of the Church, its importance, and its history.

Paul says it quite clear that the Church is the Israel of God (Galatians). Anyone who views the Church as a temporary kingdom, and not THE kingdom, are lying to themselves, lying to others, and are teaching a doctrine that was not passed down by the Apostles. Granted all await to pass on from this earth, to the heavenly kingdom to be with the Lord where He is. But to expect to bring Christ down from His heavenly rule, as though this were Prophesied, is a false expectation, and one that isn't even required. There's nothing wrong with God ruling the world from His rightful habitat, being heaven. But man wants to bring Christ down from above (Romans 10) to rule the world, when these Futurists fail to understand that He already does rule the world; for He and His counsel decides the faith of any Nation who betrays Him; look at what's happening to the United States. But more importantly, He rules the world within us; the Saints who serve as His shining stars; His temple; and His examples of Holiness; at least we should be living Holy lives.

Good post brother. I look forward to more from you.

Joe