Do the scriptures claim that God is Omniscient?

[CWH]

Hey there Cheow,

You are completely mistaken. I have not given up my first love! My first love is TRUTH. That's how it is now and that's how it was when I was Christian. And my love for TRUTH compelled me to speak truth. What else could I do? What else do you think I should do?

Should I LIE like the Christian apologists who spit on Christ when they deny the truth to protect their false doctrines about the Bible as when they say that it is the "inerrant and infallible Word of God?" If they had ONE OUNCE of integrity they would admit the truth that there are errors if in the Bible, and that murdering babies is not "good" and that the creation story is absurd if taken literally, and so on and so forth. But they can't do that because they hate the truth and they love lies.

And now will you repent of your attempt to pervert truth by saying that non-theism is atheism? You know you are liar because you know that I have said that I believe there probably is a God, and no atheist could ever say that. I just do not believe in the "sky daddy" Zeus-style God of traditional Christian theism that intervenes in human affairs and answers prayers and all that. I have explained this a dozen on this forum. You have no excuse for your LIES. You really need to admit the truth and apologize.

Thanks!

Richard

Yeah, your definition of liar is anyone who do not agree with you.....looks like almost everybody in this forum is a liar to you. Let me show you what a liar means:

From dictionary:
A person who made a false statement with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

From the Bible:
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:20
Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

1 John 5:10
Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.

Are these God's words or are these words invented by men who were liars? I have no intention to pervert any truth. What is truth to one may not be truth to another....it's a matter of mutual agreement.

You know you are liar because you know that I have said that I believe there probably is a God, and no atheist could ever say that.

Why doubt RAM; why "there PROBABLY is a God". just be confirmative and say "there IS a God" if you are not an atheist or a non-theist. It doesn't make sense to sit on the fence; it's like saying, there was probably a Jesus Christ or a Nero Caesar or Abraham. What truth is this?


Love God for He loves us first and sacrificed for our sin.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Yeah, your definition of liar is anyone who do not agree with you.....looks like almost everybody in this forum is a liar to you.

Bullshit. I love it when intelligent people disagree with me. I learn a lot from them, and am delighted to publicly state when I am in error. And I never call anyone a "liar" without providing direct evidence of that fact.

I don't know why you are trying to pervert truth by falsely calling me an "atheist" but I am guessing it is because you think that "atheist" is a big fat insult. I looks like adolescent name calling.

If I were an atheist, I would shout it from the rooftops. Why not? I have nothing to lose. To fundamentalist Christians, my position as a non-Christian non-theist is nearly identical to "atheist" in their tiny little minds. If I considered myself an atheist, I would simply state it right along with everything else I think is true.

Let me show you what a liar means:

From dictionary:
A person who made a false statement with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

From the Bible:
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:20
Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

1 John 5:10
Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.

Are these God's words or are these words invented by men who were liars? I have no intention to pervert any truth. What is truth to one may not be truth to another....it's a matter of mutual agreement.

Your first definition from the dictionary is accurate. It was all that was needed. Your quotes from the Bible are irrelevant because they refer only to specific lies, not to the meaning of "to lie" in general. Your final statement is false. Truth does not depend on mutual agreement. If that were true then it would be false because I don't agree. Get it? I just proved that your idea that truth depends upon "mutual agreement" is false.

Truth is truth. I'm amazed that fundamentalist Christians seem further from the truth than most other people. Unfortunately, I know why - it is because their minds and morals have been destroyed by trying to support false doctrines like the idea that the Bible is the "inerrant and infallible Word of God" and "it is good to kill little babies" and "the Bible is not biased against women."

You know you are liar because you know that I have said that I believe there probably is a God, and no atheist could ever say that.

Why doubt RAM; why "there PROBABLY is a God". just be confirmative and say "there IS a God" if you are not an atheist or a non-theist. It doesn't make sense to sit on the fence; it's like saying, there was probably a Jesus Christ or a Nero Caesar or Abraham. What truth is this?

Love God for He loves us first and sacrificed for our sin.

Why doubt? What kind of question is that? I "doubt" because I don't "know" and I am not willing to lie and say that I know something when in fact I do not!

But you are correct about one thing, it is like saying "there was probably a Jesus Christ or a Nero Caesar or Abraham." All historical knowledge must be couched in the language of probability because we have no "absolute knowledge" for those things. But the evidence for the existence of Nero is of a different order altogether than the evidence for Abraham or Christ. We have many documents written at the time of Nero, including inscriptions in stone, records of the exact length of his reign and even the dates of his birth and death! This gives any reasonable person very good reasons to conclude that he "probably" existed with great certainty (though no knowledge of ancient history is absolutely certain). We have nothing like that for Abraham or Christ. The best reason we have for believing they existed is because it is hard to explain how Judaism and Christianity arose without them. But that's not very direct "evidence' and there are other explanations that some find even more compelling. And since the story of Abraham is set around four thousand years ago (2000 BC) there is no archeological evidence for his existence whatsoever.

And how is it that you ignored the evidence that you lied? You know what I said is true! I said "You know you are liar because you know that I have said that I believe there probably is a God, and no atheist could ever say that." So there it is. You are getting tangled in your lies. It would be best if you simply admitted your error and apologized. That's what I would do in your situation.

There's no need for this discussion to be so confrontational Cheow. You started this spat by falsely calling me an atheist. There was no need for that, especially since it is not true.

All the best.