wheel in 3 or 4?

[MelchizedekPriest]

My friends,

I have read with great interest the details on the bible wheel and I must say it is quite comforting to find people on the threshold of gaining ultimate wisdom.

I note from your diagram of the wheel you have it broken into three segments or cycles

I was wondering if you would consider the following and I shall try write it in as easy a way as possible. what if there were four cycles and not 3?

3 represents the teaching of God through the Holy Spirit and his Son.3 aspects of the one true God. we break this down into :

1) God speaking through the prophets via the spirit such as Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel and daniel etc...... pre Jesus era. ( from creation to Jesus era)

2) God speaking through Jesus via the Spirit when Jesus was with us on earth - Jesus era

3) Post Jesus era, i.e. from Romans to Revelation when the teachings of Jesus were around and taught by his disciples and believers.

4) The Second Coming - when Jesus returns, fulfils his teachings, proves in the power of the Triune God and introduces us to new teachings such as the completion of the Holy trinity work giving rise to a new teaching about the Holy Quarter - 4, God, Holy Spirit, Son and Mother ( mother being mary)

If Jesus returns and simply proves in the holy trinity then what else can we learn from him? no he must return with an even more powerful story and complete the working of the Holy trinity and give rise to his new teachings.

a circle or wheel can be equally divided in four quarters, think of the celtic Cross :

In your study of the bible wheel it is already complete you have the full wheel filled in but you need to leave space for the second coming to happen in your wheel.

this is just my thoughts and I hope I dont offend.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

My friends,

I have read with great interest the details on the bible wheel and I must say it is quite comforting to find people on the threshold of gaining ultimate wisdom.

I note from your diagram of the wheel you have it broken into three segments or cycles

I was wondering if you would consider the following and I shall try write it in as easy a way as possible. what if there were four cycles and not 3?

3 represents the teaching of God through the Holy Spirit and his Son.3 aspects of the one true God. we break this down into :

1) God speaking through the prophets via the spirit such as Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel and daniel etc...... pre Jesus era. ( from creation to Jesus era)

2) God speaking through Jesus via the Spirit when Jesus was with us on earth - Jesus era

3) Post Jesus era, i.e. from Romans to Revelation when the teachings of Jesus were around and taught by his disciples and believers.

4) The Second Coming - when Jesus returns, fulfils his teachings, proves in the power of the Triune God and introduces us to new teachings such as the completion of the Holy trinity work giving rise to a new teaching about the Holy Quarter - 4, God, Holy Spirit, Son and Mother ( mother being mary)

If Jesus returns and simply proves in the holy trinity then what else can we learn from him? no he must return with an even more powerful story and complete the working of the Holy trinity and give rise to his new teachings.

a circle or wheel can be equally divided in four quarters, think of the celtic Cross :

In your study of the bible wheel it is already complete you have the full wheel filled in but you need to leave space for the second coming to happen in your wheel.

this is just my thoughts and I hope I dont offend.

Hey there MelchizedekPriest,

Welcome to our forum!



Don't worry about "offending" with questions or suggestions like yours. They are always welcome here.

There is plenty of space outside the wheel to add as many cycles as you want. But what would you fill them with?

As for dividing the circle into four equal quadrants: that's not possible with the Bible in any form because 66 is not divisible by 4. And besides, the division you suggest is not numerically symmetrical, so how would it fit on a "wheel"?

I really don't understand how you ideas would relate to any form of a "wheel." Did I miss something?

Thanks for your suggestions. Sorry I didn't really understand them all.

Richard

[MelchizedekPriest]

My friend,



what if when Jesus returns for his second coming as a Priest from the Order of MElchizedek he gives us books 67-88 thats four quadrants with 22 in each making it 88 which is twice 44 or 44:44

i would like to refer you to this link which you can download free of charge http://stores.lulu.com/2012 and when you read the evidence you will see where i am coming from.

Also with regards 44:44 please see this link : http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2284

Hebrews 7:17 For it is declared: "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."

Psalm 110:4 The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."

your wheel is full and there is no room for the second coming to be contained within your wheel and yet your 66 cycles all predict a second coming so where does the second coming fit into your wheel? God does a full circle and this full circle includes fulfilling the promise of the second coming.... when the son returns for his second coming he is going to turn to the internet as a way of announcing he is back and mingle with people awaiting him.....if they listen to him or not is totally their own business, may the holy spirit guide you.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

My friend,



what if when Jesus returns for his second coming as a Priest from the Order of MElchizedek he gives us books 67-88 thats four quadrants with 22 in each making it 88 which is twice 44 or 44:44

i would like to refer you to this link which you can download free of charge http://stores.lulu.com/2012 and when you read the evidence you will see where i am coming from.

Also with regards 44:44 please see this link : http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2284

Hebrews 7:17 For it is declared: "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."

Psalm 110:4 The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."

your wheel is full and there is no room for the second coming to be contained within your wheel and yet your 66 cycles all predict a second coming so where does the second coming fit into your wheel? God does a full circle and this full circle includes fulfilling the promise of the second coming.... when the son returns for his second coming he is going to turn to the internet as a way of announcing he is back and mingle with people awaiting him.....if they listen to him or not is totally their own business, may the holy spirit guide you.

Hey there MP,

I see you strongly emphasized the ME in "MElchizedek." I presume you are trying to give us a "not-so-subtle" clue as to your "identity" as the Biblical preist Melchizedek. Well, that's unfortunate, because I was already having trouble finding any motivation to read your 714 page PDF file explaining why Harold Camping - whom I recognize as one of the most outrageously deluded religious freaks currently drawing breath on God's green earth - is somehow "right" about his false predictions of the rapture and world-wide earthquake on May 21, 2011. That seems particularly odd since you seem to believe in the 2012 stuff, whereas Camping predicts the annihilation of the entire universe on October 21, 2011.

So maybe we should skip the 714 page dissertation and just jump right into the essence of your claim and the evidence for it. Please be brief. No one has the time or interest to sort the wheat from the chaff in a rambling thousand word post.

All the best.

[MelchizedekPriest]

My friends

I just have to sow the seed, the Holy Spirit does the watering wait and see and I apologise for my posts, its quite obvious im in the wrong place. the wheels on this bible bus aint going round and round.

Mine is to deliver the facts not to get people to believe in them said St Bernadette.

Father send forth your spirit upon RAM and the other users, may he never forget reading these posts

A King unwanted by anyone will begin to rule 2 Esdras 4:6

But the wicked would not listen and refused to obey him in their foolishness, they have made their own wicked and deceitful plans. they denied the existence of God most High and refused to follow his ways. they have rejected his law, refused to accept his promises, disobeyed his decrees, and failed to do what he commanded 2 Esdras 7:22-25

But first the Son of Man must suffer terribly and be rejected by this generation. Luke 17;25

and finally my last post on this site

Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' Mathew 7:23

....What is this ignorant show off trying to say? Acts 17:18.....some of the things we hear you say sounds strange to us....Acts 17:20.

This is what I will do in the last days says the Lord : I will pour out my spirit on everyone. Your sons and daughters will proclaim my message; your young men will see visions, and your old men will have dreams. Yes, even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days and they will proclaim my message. I will perform miracles in the sky above and wonders on the earth below. There will be blood fire and thick smoke; the sun will be darkened, and the moon will turn as red as blood, before the great and glorious day of the Lord comes. And then whoever calls out to the Lord for help will be saved. Acts 2:17-21

[Richard Amiel McGough]

My friends

I just have to sow the seed, the Holy Spirit does the watering wait and see and I apologise for my posts, its quite obvious im in the wrong place. the wheels on this bible bus aint going round and round.

Yeah ... and the seed you sow is the solipsistic seed of "ME ME ME!" Look at me everyone! I'm the MElchizedek Priest! Yes I am don't you know it! And when Jesus comes he'll be a priest of ME ME ME MY very own order! I'm so important! I give ME-self chills. Me chills a deck a peck o rum in a drum a la dee dum!

I know, I know. There's nothing like a little serious sanity to ruin an otherwise fine day of self-aggrandizement. So sorry! Melki-delky! I mean, you know you really were convincing us all about your secret priesthood and your secret knowledge of the super secret SECOND COMING which everyone has been wrong about four 2000 years until you showed up shining with all that brilliant word play MElchiseldek! ~

[MelchizedekPriest]

My friend I forgot to say :

'THE SUN WILL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, BEFORE THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS DAY OF THE LORD SHALL COME acts 2:2

see the clipse tonight of the lunar variety?




Isaiah 13:10 The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light.
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Joel 2:31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.
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Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the distress of those days "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
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Acts 2:19 I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke.
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Acts 2:21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'

I will use your own words to judge you... the son cares not what those from earth think of him

[MelchizedekPriest]

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, REV 6:12

EArTHQUAKE CHRISTCHURCH....CHRISTSCHURCH

[Richard Amiel McGough]

I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, REV 6:12

EArTHQUAKE CHRISTCHURCH....CHRISTSCHURCH

So what? There have been many earthquakes in the place called "Christchurch" in the past. They didn't signify anything.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

My friend I forgot to say :

'THE SUN WILL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, BEFORE THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS DAY OF THE LORD SHALL COME acts 2:2

see the clipse tonight of the lunar variety?




Isaiah 13:10 The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light.
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Joel 2:31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.
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Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the distress of those days "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
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Acts 2:19 I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke.
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Acts 2:21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'

I will use your own words to judge you... the son cares not what those from earth think of him

There have been gazillions of eclipses in the past without any correlation to any "end times" events. Why do you think this one will be different? And what will you say when your predictions are proven false? Have you made false predictions in the past? If so, how many?