haarp.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

i shall allow others to make up their own minds RAM.
just as I have made up mine.

i see quiet a few readers have read this post, so they can think for themselves and judge for themselves.

we are on opposing sides of facts so may the best man win

Well, it kinda goes without saying that folks will make up their own minds. But I still don't have any idea why you believe in the HAARP conspiracy theories. Do you know why you believe in them? Are you sure that you have made up your own mind? If HAARP really is able to control people's minds, then maybe they used it to deceive you into believing the conspiracy theory! Have you considered that?

And why did you start this thread if you didn't want to discuss it?

[2by''s]

you see HAARP in its own funny way is like the bible.
We cannot see what Haarp is doing, alot of it is quess work, some people give out facts but it is mostly shrouded in mystery ''why is it there''.

the bible bears a striking likeness to this.

We can read the bible and form an opinion but is it the opinion of the truth.
or
we can have the truth and someone comes along and sows doubts in our minds so suddenly the truth we had developed is lost into another opinion we had not formed ourselves but someone else formed it for us.

i like to gather information, and shift through iT - BASICALLY so see how it works upon me.
like the bible i gather my information and see how it works upon me.
If i love the results in me i keep it as the truth, if i dont like the result i toss it out.

as an example i noticed Jesus never was annoyed with unbelievers, nor did He get upset by the traitor in His ministry - there is a lesson to learn there - so i learnt it, so i can become His image here and now on earth.

SO now i look into the world stage, and i suddenly notice many many very weird and unusual things happening in a reaatively short span of time that did not happen in the same intensity as before nor as often.
So i began to wonder ''why is this so' as it seemed like an agenda for destruction add nauseum.
so what would cause such mayhem and kill thousands and destroy food supplies and almost nations?

a machine.

[TheForgiven]

You guys ever wonder if the HAARP caused El Nino? I heard that some sources in the early 1990's claimed the El Nino may have been the result of HAARP testing. Some speculated that this is what caused the hole in the ozone layer. What's ignorant of that of course is that there is no hole in the ozone layer at the NP. Ozone is created by sunlight, and with the absents of sun light, there is also the absents of ozone. It's also funny how they used the absents of zone in the NP as a reason to ban R12 and R22 refrigerants. Yet these two refrigerants are nothing more than liquid chlorine; pretty much the same stuff we put in swimming pools.

Anyway, just wanted our opinion on HAARP possibly causing El Nino.

Joe

[Silence]

Hi Joe,
The banning of R-14 & R-22 had nothing to do with science. DuPont's patent on these refrigerants was about to expire and they wanted to keep a lock on their market. So they bought a bunch of scientists to create a crisis that needed to be solved right away. We ought to be so very thankful that the wonderful chemists at DuPont had their new line of (very toxic) "ozone friendly" replacement refrigerants ready to step in and save the day.