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    Lucifer in Septuagint

    I'm curious how Lucifer made it's name into the Septuagint?
    Septuagint
    Esaias
    14:12
    How has Lucifer, that rose in the morning, fallen from heaven! He that sent [orders] to all the nations is crushed to the earth.

    14:12 πῶς ἐξέπεσεν ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ὁ ἑωσφόρος ὁ πρωὶ ἀνατέλλων συνετρίβη εἰς τὴν γῆν ὁ ἀποστέλλων πρὸς πάντα τὰ ἔθνη

    Masoretic
    Isaiah
    14:12
    How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
    Since the name comes from Latin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgal View Post
    I'm curious how Lucifer made it's name into the Septuagint?

    Septuagint
    Esaias
    14:12
    How has Lucifer, that rose in the morning, fallen from heaven! He that sent [orders] to all the nations is crushed to the earth.

    14:12 πῶς ἐξέπεσεν ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ ὁ ἑωσφόρος ὁ πρωὶ ἀνατέλλων συνετρίβη εἰς τὴν γῆν ὁ ἀποστέλλων πρὸς πάντα τὰ ἔθνη

    Masoretic
    Isaiah
    14:12
    How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
    Since the name comes from Latin.
    The name "Lucifer" is not found in the Septuagint. It came from the Latin Vulgate:
    Isaiah 14:12 quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes
    The word "lucifer" is the Latin name of the planet Venus, aka the "morning star" known either as Eosophorus (bringer of the dawn) or Phosphoros (bringer of the light) in Greek. We find the word lucifer again as a title of Christ in the Latin Vulgate:
    VUL 2 Peter 1:19 et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris
    This verse tells us to wait until LUCIFER rises in our hearts!

    The King James Bible copied the name Lucifer from the Vulgate. It is one of the most ridiculous of all the errors introduced by that version. Countless millions of people erroneously believe that Lucifer is a name of Satan. This error is propagated by countless "Bible teachers" who are ignorant of what the Bible actually teaches. This is why Christians in general are so bloody ignorant. Neither they nor their "shepherds" have half a clue about what is actually in the book they call the "Word of God."
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    RAM wrote:
    The King James Bible copied the name Lucifer from the Vulgate. It is one of the most ridiculous of all the errors introduced by that version. Countless millions of people erroneously believe that Lucifer is a name of Satan. This error is propagated by countless "Bible teachers" who are ignorant of what the Bible actually teaches. This is why Christians in general are so bloody ignorant. Neither they nor their "shepherds" have half a clue about what is actually in the book they call the "Word of God."
    Hey RAM,

    You are correct on this one. Lucifer was not satan. The name was applied to the king of Babylon. It starts out saying, "Take up this proverb against the KING OF BABYLON saying...."

    KJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    The name "Lucifer" is not found in the Septuagint. It came from the Latin Vulgate:
    quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes
    The word "lucifer" is the Latin name of the planet Venus, aka the "morning star" known either as Eosophorus (bringer of the dawn) or Phosphoros (bringer of the light) in Greek. We find the word lucifer again as a title of Christ in the Latin Vulgate:
    VUL et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris
    This verse tells us to wait until LUCIFER rises in our hearts!

    The King James Bible copied the name Lucifer from the Vulgate. It is one of the most ridiculous of all the errors introduced by that version. Countless millions of people erroneously believe that Lucifer is a name of Satan. This error is propagated by countless "Bible teachers" who are ignorant of what the Bible actually teaches. This is why Christians in general are so bloody ignorant. Neither they nor their "shepherds" have half a clue about what is actually in the book they call the "Word of God."
    My grandmother's name was Lucifer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilgal View Post
    My grandmother's name was Lucifer.
    That's very interesting. Where was she born? This site says the name Lucifer is usually a girl's name, and has a similar popularity as names like Elaine, Joyce, Sandy, Alison, and Andrea. I've know women with all those names, except Lucifer. I think folks forgot the real meaning in this country because they got confused by the KJV version of Isaiah 14:12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangaroo Jack View Post
    RAM wrote:
    Hey RAM,

    You are correct on this one. Lucifer was not satan. The name was applied to the king of Babylon. It starts out saying, "Take up this proverb against the KING OF BABYLON saying...."

    KJ
    Actually, that's not quite correct because "Lucifer" was not the name of the King of Babylon either. Lucifer was the name of the morning star, aka Venus. The translators of the LXX rendered Heylel as Eosphoros, the Greek name of Venus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    That's very interesting. Where was she born? This site says the name Lucifer is usually a girl's name, and has a similar popularity as names like Elaine, Joyce, Sandy, Alison, and Andrea. I've know women with all those names, except Lucifer. I think folks forgot the real meaning in this country because they got confused by the KJV version of .
    Either Cilicia or Syria. Not sure. There are two names that when cut short are named Lucy. Lucifer and Lussadzin. Lussadzin means born of light. Lucifer means bearer/bringer of light.

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