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    Interesting Book

    I came across this http://www.thunderbolts.info/pdf/01.1PART%20I_Ch1.pdf while surfing this morning and thought I would post it if anyone is interested in taking a look. Personally, I find it very intriguing. I wonder why more people don't use Occam's razor when considering explanations for the origins of the many world-wide "myths" that exist, and the common symbols that are associated with them? Somehow I get the feeling that Gallileo, Newton, and the rest will not be the last to overthrow everything we "know" to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    I came across this http://www.thunderbolts.info/pdf/01.1PART%20I_Ch1.pdf while surfing this morning and thought I would post it if anyone is interested in taking a look. Personally, I find it very intriguing. I wonder why more people don't use Occam's razor when considering explanations for the origins of the many world-wide "myths" that exist, and the common symbols that are associated with them? Somehow I get the feeling that Gallileo, Newton, and the rest will not be the last to overthrow everything we "know" to be true.
    I would not be surprised if our scientific world-view goes through many more "revolutions" as significant as those pioneered by Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Heisenberg, et. al., but I don't think it will be coming from folks who are reinterpreting ancient mythology. The PDF you linked is promoting the same basic idea as Velikovsky put out in his book "Worlds in Collision" back in 1950. The PDF makes lots of grand claims but does not support them with any facts. They claim Plato said this or that, but do not say where so I can not confirm. In other words, it appears to be both unscientific and nonacademic.
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    Hello Richard,
    I should have mentioned that one of the authors of the book is Wallace Thornhill, who is a physicist. The following link is from a page at thunderbolts.info where a lot of his work on can be found. http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm

    Mr. Thornhill makes a lot of predictions based on an electric/plasma theory of the universe formation as opposed to gravitation, and then compares them to the results of experiments by NASA and others. Have you heard of him? I don't know anything about physics, and previously had only read a few articles by Jim McCanney on the theory of an "Electric Universe". After researching some of the links Mr. McCanney has on his website, I decided he was a little wacky (the pastor of the church that he says he attends advocates principles that the Nazis held). I haven't had time to look into Mr. Thornhill yet, but he seems to be using the scientific method of making predictions based on his proposed theory and testing them against evidence from experiments. I am not educated enough about physics to know how forthright he is about any conclusions that he draws. The closest I come to any experience with an "electric" universe is when I was troubleshooting a "missing cylinder" in my sister's old Toyota Corona at night. The plugs were so worn that the resistance in the spark plug wires was very high and when I reached over one of them I noticed a bluish haze appear between my finger and the wire (it was 'leaking' due to the high voltage). I started playing around with making patterns by moving more than one finger over the wires and making a circle out of my thumb and forefinger and then seeing how big it would get before the "spider webs" of blue current quit jumping the gap. Luckily there were no spots on the insulation that were so weak as to get me zapped.

    Mr. Thornhill mentions several scientists that have worked in the area of plasma research - Hannes Alfven, Anthony Perrat, and Eric Lerner. Are you familiar with any of them?

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    I'm so gullible, I'll consider anything - http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...hicagofire.htm .

    This one I am hesitant to post because the guy that made it is also huckstering his silver trading business, but it is very interesting that 3 large earthquakes have been associated with the earth, sun and this "comet" being in alignment. It is obviously not the cause of earthquakes since they happen all the time, but this definitely looks like a prime candidate for a trigger. I don't have a TV, but I have not heard anyone talking about this visitor's trip into our area of the solar system like they did in '96 and '97 when Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake went by. And i can find very little coverage of it on the internet, except for "fringe" type websites. Why the silence? http://www.youtube.com/user/markinpo.../3/RnG8Pa0u-4U .

    Here is some more interesting stuff:

    The following excerpt is from this page - http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/p...php?f=13&t=245 that I came across while reading about an "electric universe". I had first come across this concept several years ago while reading up on archaeoastronomy .

    Saturn’s 'day'

    But why would sun-like features be attributed to the now-distant planet Saturn? A first and crucial step is to distinguish the original meanings of "day" and "night."

    Many hymns to Shamash and Ra--the celebrated suns of Mesopotamia and Egypt--describe these gods coming forth at the beginning of the day, and the terminology will appear to signify our sun rising in the East. One of the chapters of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, for example, is "The Chapter of Coming Forth by Day." The sun gods of both Egypt and Mesopotamia turn darkness into day, inaugurate the day, appear as lord of the day, and so on. The language is *so strong* it may seem to make any interpretation other than the solar interpretation appear preposterous, since in our sky only the Sun could ever answer to such images.

    But there is a profound enigma here. It turns out that the "day actually began with what we would call the "night"--at sunset, with the darkening of the sky, and the coming out, or growing bright of other celestial bodies. It is widely acknowledged that the Egyptian day once began at sunset. The same is true of the Babylonian and Western Semitic days. We know the Athenians originally computed the space of a day from sunset to sunset, and the habit appears to have prevailed among northern European peoples as well.

    Who, then, is the great god--the god of terrifying radiance--whose coming out or coming forth inaugurates the day?

    This god of the archaic day, beginning at sunset, is in fact called Shamash, Helios, and Sol. He is the very god anciently identified as the planet Saturn. Therefore, we must ask whether something more than a rationalization of the enigma may be necessary.


    The association of Saturn to " Saturn's day" or Saturday to us is interesting in that Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath when rest is taken and all of the ancient accounts mention the time when Saturn "rested" and didn't move in it's station over the earth's pole. It's name in Hebrew is "Shabbathai".

    This page is an extension of the previous one - http://thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB...php?f=13&t=662 .

    It is hard to ignore the consistency of world-wide "myths" describing the way things were in "the golden age" (before the "casting down or katabole of the world" as it is called in the bible?) and the consensus around Saturn being stationed over the north axis of the earth. Why would all of these cultures all tell the exact same lies in their myths, especially when they also talk so much about their strong desire to return to the "golden age", a time that all of these myths also say that men were not the evil, lying and violent creatures they later became? Why would they do something so contrary to the way things were in the ideal state that they are describing?

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