What is "This Generation?"

**Rose** · 02-08-2011, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by whirlwind

Why are we focusing on the end of the age? What did the disciples ask Him about? "The sign of Thy coming," and "the end of the world/age." That is the reason we are focusing on it. He goes on in the chapter to tell us what will happen.

Please provide the quote where Jesus said the temple would be destroyed.

The buildings of the temple were destroyed yet Jerusalem stands as does the temple....forever!

All Jerusalem and by that I mean all of those making up His holy city...all of us. We are His city, we are Jerusalem...

For His children that are misled.

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Hi Whirlwind,

You said: "The buildings of the temple were destroyed ", but I thought there was still one stone standing upon another?

Oh, no! I think I'm getting confused...

Also, I think I missed an important point....what exactly was the reason the stones were suppose to come down in the first place...

Blessings,
Rose

**Edward Goodie** · 02-08-2011, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by whirlwind

The buildings of the temple were destroyed yet Jerusalem stands as does the temple....forever!

I am glad that you admit that the temple was destroyed. Progress is being made.

[QUOTE=whirlwind;27701]All Jerusalem and by that I mean all of those making up His holy city...all of us. We are His city, we are Jerusalem...[quote]

I take back that progress statement. In order for you to believe that, you would have to agree that when "Jesus drew nigh to Jerusalem" that He was actually approaching the holy people.

But I must admit, you are somewhat close in what you said. You just picked the wrong Jerusalem. Paul puts it this way:

Galatians 4:25-26 - For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

It is the NEW JERUSALEM which represents the people of God. The old Jerusalem (first century) was representative of the old covenant which was in bondage...

It is the New Jerusalem which is the city that even the OT faithful were looking forward to (Hebrews 11:10, 16, and especially Hebrews 12:22)

Written to Hebrew BELIEVERS:

Hebrews 12:22 - But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels

The bride of Christ, the church is representative of the NEW JERUSALEM:

Revelation 21:2 - And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 21:9-10 - And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

What you have done is to give old Jerusalem the status of the New Jerusalem.

**Edward Goodie** · 02-08-2011, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by EndtimesDeut32/70AD

There is a pretty thorough discourse on 'this generation' here.

Wow! That is the best documentation of "This Generation" that I have ever seen! What magnificance! What exegesis!

**whirlwind** · 02-08-2011, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Rose

Hi Whirlwind,

You said: "The buildings of the temple were destroyed ", but I thought there was still one stone standing upon another?

Oh, no! I think I'm getting confused...

Also, I think I missed an important point....what exactly was the reason the stones were suppose to come down in the first place...

Blessings,
Rose

The buildings were destroyed Rose but....one stone remains standing upon another. Why?

If we are every confused or miss an important point...we go to His Word:

Matthew 24:2-3 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as He sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto Him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and of the end of the world?

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**whirlwind** · 02-08-2011, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1959

I am glad that you admit that the temple was destroyed. Progress is being made.

Silly Wabbit...trix are for kids.

I repeat....The buildings of the temple were destroyed. The temple stands.

Originally Posted by whirlwind

All Jerusalem and by that I mean all of those making up His holy city...all of us. We are His city, we are Jerusalem...

I take back that progress statement. In order for you to believe that, you would have to agree that when "Jesus drew nigh to Jerusalem" that He was actually approaching the holy people.

Yes indeed!

But I must admit, you are somewhat close in what you said. You just picked the wrong Jerusalem. Paul puts it this way:

Galatians 4:25-26 - For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

It is the NEW JERUSALEM which represents the people of God. The old Jerusalem (first century) was representative of the old covenant which was in bondage...

It is the New Jerusalem which is the city that even the OT faithful were looking forward to (Hebrews 11:10, 16, and especially Hebrews 12:22)

Presently, living in Jerusalem, are many that believe they are of the holy city and...they aren't...at least yet.

Written to Hebrew BELIEVERS:

Hebrews 12:22 - But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels

The bride of Christ, the church is representative of the NEW JERUSALEM:

Revelation 21:2 - And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 21:9-10 - And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

What you have done is to give old Jerusalem the status of the New Jerusalem.

Some of us are of the Holy city now...some not. Some of us dwell in heaven now...some not. Some are still earth dwellers while others have been translated into His kingdom while living in a flesh body.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son:

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**Brother Les** · 02-08-2011, 11:43 AM

Whirlwind
The buildings were destroyed Rose but....one stone remains standing upon another. Why?

If we are every confused or miss an important point...we go to His Word:Matthew 24:2-3 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as He sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto Him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and of the end of the world?

What does Youngs LITERAL Translation say?

Matthew 24 (Young's Literal Translation)

Matthew 24
1And having gone forth, Jesus departed from the temple, and his disciples came near to show him the buildings of the temple, 2and Jesus said to them, `Do ye not see all these? verily I say to you, There may not be left here a stone upon a stone, that shall not be thrown down.'

3And when he is sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples came near to him by himself, saying, `Tell us, when shall these be? and what [is] the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'

There 'May Not Be' one stone left on an other...

The question also asked "What is The Sign of Your Presence

And of the Full End of The Age

What "AGE" is to End when the Stones of the MosaicTemple Cultus Complex is thrown down. It can be no other 'AGE' except the Mosaic AGE/World.

You state to 'Go to His Word'.... it is best to go to the Hebrew and Greek....

**whirlwind** · 02-08-2011, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Brother Les

What does Youngs LITERAL Translation say?

Matthew 24 (Young's Literal Translation)

Matthew 24
1And having gone forth, Jesus departed from the temple, and his disciples came near to show him the buildings of the temple, 2and Jesus said to them, `Do ye not see all these? verily I say to you, There may not be left here a stone upon a stone, that shall not be thrown down.'

3And when he is sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples came near to him by himself, saying, `Tell us, when shall these be? and what [is] the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'

There 'May Not Be' one stone left on an other...

The question also asked "What is The Sign of Your Presence

And of the Full End of The Age

What "AGE" is to End when the Stones of the MosaicTemple Cultus Conplex is thrown down. It can be no other 'AGE' except the Mosaic AGE/World.

You state to 'Go to His Word'.... it is best to go to the Hebrew and Greek....

I agree...it is best.

Do they say anything anywhere anytime about "the Mosaic Temple Celtus Conplex?" Do they say anything about the "stones of the Mosaic Temple Cultus Complex?"

Nope...didn't see it.

You are placing that there and it isn't there. It is the end of the world/age or...the full end of the age. Soon but not yet and certainly not in 70AD.

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**Brother Les** · 02-08-2011, 11:57 AM

Are you ten years old? Because you sound and type like a confused little child.

**Rose** · 02-08-2011, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by whirlwind

The buildings were destroyed Rose but....one stone remains standing upon another. Why?

If we are every confused or miss an important point...we go to His Word:

Matthew 24:2-3 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as He sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto Him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and of the end of the world?

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"one stone remains standing upon another. Why? "

Yes, that was my question that YOU DIDN'T ANSWER!

Could you please give me your answer to that question without just quoting a verse....

Blessings,
Rose

**whirlwind** · 02-08-2011, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rose

"one stone remains standing upon another. Why? "

Yes, that was my question that YOU DIDN'T ANSWER!

Could you please give me your answer to that question without just quoting a verse....

Blessings,
Rose

So no one would mistake an event, such as the 70AD event, as being what was being taught by Christ. And yet....it still is.

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