
Originally Posted by
Ed J
Hi Richard,
1) Quite the contrary: you attested to it also written in the "Latin" Vulgate Bible; we both know Lucifer(74) is in the "AKJV Bible"(74). The word from which Lucifer was translated means: giver of light and bright morning star. Both "Latin" and "Light" have the same "Theomatic" value of 56.
Of course you will claim this is more "Cherry Picking"; but it is you who brought to light the "Latin Vulgate"(144) Bible used it first.
................Light is JEHOVAH=117
(117)יהוה האלהים = is the light(117) = God Spirit(117)
John 3:19-20 this is the condemnation, that [light is JEHOVAH]
come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light,
because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth
the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Hey there Ed,
You still have not addressed the point. How does the appearance of the word "Lucifer" in a translation of the Bible mean that the translated word was "really" the name of Satan? It sounds like you are now saying that the Latin Vulgate is also an inspired translation like the "AKJV Bible." Is that what you mean?
And speaking of the "AKJV Bible" - that's a perfect example of cherry picking. You write "AKJV Bible" because "KJV Bible" = 73 and you want to get 74, so you add the "A". You and I both know with perfect certainty that if you wanted the value to be 73 you would be writing "KJV Bible." Your numerical identities prove nothing because they only "confirm" whatever you already believe.
I get the impression you don't know what "cherry picking" means, and that you do not understand why it is a logical fallacy.
Here's an explanation:
Cherry picking is the act of pointing at individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position.
The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to only select the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who only sees the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the fruit is in such good condition.
Cherry picking can be found in many logical fallacies. For example, the "fallacy of anecdotal evidence" tends to overlook large amounts of data in favor of that known personally, while a false dichotomy picks only two options when more are available.
This is a precise definition of the fallacy of your "proofs." Take the number 56 for example. You said it is the value of "light" and "Latin" and seemed to imply that this proved something, though you did not state exactly what it was supposed to prove. Now tell me this: How many English words sum to 56? The answer is hundreds. So why are the two words you chose more significant than the hundreds of other words, like scum(56), pus(56), spat(56), and shit(56)? As you can see, there is no rhyme nor reason to your method. You ignore mountains of facts while emphasizing only the few things that support your preconceived notions. Your work is, therefore, the very definition of "cherry picking." It is fundamentally fallacious. Willful persistence in such fallacy is madness.

Originally Posted by
Ed J
3) The Jews would argue that the name "Jesus" is un-biblical.
And they would be technically correct, but this case is altogether different. The name "Jesus" is based on the Greek IHSOUS which is how the Jews translated the Hebrew name Yehoshua (Joshua) in the Greek Septuagint. There is a direct connection between the English "Jesus" and the Hebrew original. There is no such connection between the word "Lucifer" and the Hebrew Heylel.
All the best,
Richard
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