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    the problem of 2 years with the Flood

    Yes Richard, these chronological datas are very frustrating, yet it seems there is something to do with it, as the 12600 years of the 26 Patriarchs, which doesn't seem pure chance.
    It seems obvious we are not supposed to wonder if X begat Y at N years and more or less months. We just have to add the N to arrive where the writers wanted to lead us.
    So Arpakshad was born in 1656 the year of the Flood.
    But he was born too TWO years after the Flood.
    We have to choose one or the other, but it seems the Jewish tradition first chose the first hypothesis.
    It was stated the episode of the Tower of Babel was linked to the death of Peleg, in 1996 then, 340 years after the Flood, and the midrashes link this to the gematria of Shem.
    When the Seder Olam chronology tried to smooth the discrepancy, stating Noah begat Shem at 502, all the dates are added 2 years, and Peleg dies in 1998, but they had to deal with other beliefs, so they kept the episode of Babel in 1996.
    There might be another trace of this with the Settlement in Egypt, dated 2238 by the Seder Olam, but it stated too that the first trip of Jacob's son to Egypt was in 2236.

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    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    There are plenty of Jungian scholars who might not be as dismissive as you think. I just had to get off my fundamentalist high horse before I could expect them to even look. But now I don't know what it all means anyway, so they'll still have to wait a while I guess. A mean, a messenger should have a message, no?

    I haven't done a statistical analysis of the holographs because I can't think of how that could be done. I've thought about it a lot, but haven't found a good method yet.

    But I have done a statistical analysis of some aspects of the Bible Wheel. For example, using combinatorial mathematics it is easy to calculate the probability of the Canon Wheel as precisely 1 chance in 688,324 [link].

    And I calculated the chance for the three-layer deep OT symmetry as one chance in 48,433 [link].

    Thanks for the links and I look forward to checking out the math...hope to do it today! Question: Have you ever come across a website or paper that gives examples of what a given probability means in layman's terms, like, the probability of that happening is the same as the probability of winning $30,000,000 in the Nevada state lottery or the probability of that happening is the same as tossing quarters and hitting heads 90 out of 100 times, etc. I think comparisons like that would help the layman to understand...and appreciate...the significance of it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Christian View Post
    Thanks for the links and I look forward to checking out the math...hope to do it today! Question: Have you ever come across a website or paper that gives examples of what a given probability means in layman's terms, like, the probability of that happening is the same as the probability of winning $30,000,000 in the Nevada state lottery or the probability of that happening is the same as tossing quarters and hitting heads 90 out of 100 times, etc. I think comparisons like that would help the layman to understand...and appreciate...the significance of it better.

    Facing the East,
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    Those kinds of examples are extemely common in popular explanations of probability so I never thought to bother to repeat them myself. And since anyone who could understand the actual mathematical calculations I present wouldn't need them, it never occurred to me to add them. I generally think less is more and try to keep things as trim as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    Those kinds of examples are extemely common in popular explanations of probability so I never thought to bother to repeat them myself. And since anyone who could understand the actual mathematical calculations I present wouldn't need them, it never occurred to me to add them. I generally think less is more and try to keep things as trim as possible.

    Very often, real world examples or comparisons have a greater impact on those less learned in mathematical probabilities, if one has any interest in sharing such exceptional findings with the average person...maybe brightening up their day or something...if not, stick to the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RC Christian View Post
    Very often, real world examples or comparisons have a greater impact on those less learned in mathematical probabilities, if one has any interest in sharing such exceptional findings with the average person...maybe brightening up their day or something...if not, stick to the numbers.
    That's right. I'll keep that in mind when writing about stats in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM View Post
    That's right. I'll keep that in mind when writing about stats in the future.


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