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    Endy,

    I am writing this off site since your posts are so long, it is hard to follow them and reply at the same time. And I am a bit mift about all of it. This was not designed to be a religious thread. It started as a political thread asking, "Would you vote for me?" Of course, it's a moot point as I have decided not to run for President. A political thread in the midst of UFOs and conspiracy theories. So, in either case - IT IS NOT A RELIGIOUS THREAD!

    Now to the topic you have replaced the topic of the OP with.

    1. I agree with you about the KJV. It is likely that Prince James ordered to the translators to protect the ecclesiastical heriarchy of the Church of England, hence the mistranslation of pascha in Acts 12.4.

    2. It is good to have Bible study helps in order define words if needed. But, theologians down through history have often twisted Scripture to fit their theological dogma, causing division resulting in hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of denominations. The resulting religion bears little resemblance to the Christianity founded on the foundation of Christ and the Apostles.

    3. The words "power," and "authority" are often used interchangeably in literary works.

    That is all I can respond to at this time, as much of your responses are full of theological concepts I have little or no knowledge about.

    It is my goal to stay with in the point of the OP when I make responses to the threads of others. I would appreciate if you give me the same courtesy.

    Last edited by Didymus; 04-25-2011 at 12:09 AM.
    Justice at the expense of the truth is not justice at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didymus View Post
    Endy,

    I am writing this off site since your posts are so long, it is hard to follow them and reply at the same time. And I am a bit mift about all of it. This was not designed to be a religious thread. It started as a political thread asking, "Would you vote for me?" Of course, it's a moot point as I have decided not to run for President. A political thread in the midst of UFOs and conspiracy theories. So, in either case - IT IS NOT A RELIGIOUS THREAD!

    Now to the topic you have replaced the topic of the OP with.

    1. I agree with you about the KJV. It is likely that Prince James ordered to the translators to protect the ecclesiastical heriarchy of the Church of England, hence the mistranslation of pascha in Acts 12.4.

    2. It is good to have Bible study helps in order define words if needed. But, theologians down through history have often twisted Scripture to fit their theological dogma, causing division resulting in hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of denominations. The resulting religion bears little resemblance to the Christianity founded on the foundation of Christ and the Apostles.

    3. The words "power," and "authority" are often used interchangeably in literary works.

    That is all I can respond to at this time, as much of your responses are full of theological concepts I have little or no knowledge about.

    It is my goal to stay with in the point of the OP when I make responses to the threads of others. I would appreciate if you give me the same courtesy.

    The questions were genuine to determine your understanding of important [to me] foundations and concepts.

    So, in either case - IT IS NOT A RELIGIOUS THREAD!
    One's 'religion' and spiritual views of the laws of the Creator permeates all aspects of life including their freely contracted political activity and also by their lack thereof as supported by separation of church/state.

    Apparently the preamble and articles of the Constitution of Pennsylvania [at least] agrees as does the the Declaration of Independence; and the laws and limited domain of the federal Constitution.

    But, agreed, the continuation of discussion and study of Roman 13 MAY be better done in the bible studies section. I'll not promise prompt replies though.

    Cheers.
    Last edited by EndtimesDeut32/70AD; 04-25-2011 at 08:09 AM.
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    If you are oppressed and enslaved by religious law, you may have a tendency to oppress, enslave and attempt to lord over others who are free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EndtimesDeut32/70AD View Post
    At the same time, I don't know if the intent of the conspiracies, delusions and ufo's thread was intended to advertize ones political cause and agenda. But that is a consideration for Richard, not I. I think its fine to discuss and interact about them.
    I didn't put it here. It was moved here from "General Discussion."

    The questions were genuine to determine your understanding of important [to me] foundations and concepts.

    One's 'religion' and spiritual views of the laws of the Creator permeates all aspects of life including their political activity and also by lack thereof.
    That might be true, but you could have stayed on point.

    Apparently the preamble and articles of the Constitution of Pennsylvania [at least] agrees as does the laws and limited domain of the federal Constitution and of the Declaration of Independence.
    Agrees with what?

    Justice at the expense of the truth is not justice at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didymus View Post
    It is not for us to interpret but to accept what is written by faith.

    That's the problem! No one can except what is written by faith, unless it's been interpreted by a human. How do you think we understand words written on a page? The only way is by first learning the language of the text, and then interpreting the words. Words have meaning only when they have been interpreted by an individual, whether it be us hearing someone speak, or reading the text for ourselves it all comes down to INDIVIDUAL INTERPRETATION.

    That is the reason there are so many doctrines concerning the Christian faith, because everyone interprets the words a little differently depending on the world view they live in, hence what they accept by faith is maybe a little different from what you or I accept by faith.

    All the Best,
    Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose View Post
    That's the problem! No one can except what is written by faith, unless it's been interpreted by a human. How do you think we understand words written on a page? The only way is by first learning the language of the text, and then interpreting the words. Words have meaning only when they have been interpreted by an individual, whether it be us hearing someone speak, or reading the text for ourselves it all comes down to INDIVIDUAL INTERPRETATION.

    That is the reason there are so many doctrines concerning the Christian faith, because everyone interprets the words a little differently depending on the world view they live in, hence what they accept by faith is maybe a little different from what you or I accept by faith.

    All the Best,
    Rose
    I think you are confusing interpretation and definition.

    - now I lay me down to take a nap.
    Justice at the expense of the truth is not justice at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didymus View Post
    I think you are confusing interpretation and definition.

    - now I lay me down to take a nap.
    Now you've got me confused...

    Rose
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    Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matt.10:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose View Post
    Now you've got me confused...

    Rose
    When you define a word, and accept your findings, that's definititon.

    When you define a word, and you decide the meaning, that's interpretation.

    Justice at the expense of the truth is not justice at all.

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