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    What is co´ncidence?

    "A coincidence occurs when something uncanny, accidental and unexpected happens under conditions named, but not under a defined relationship." From Wikipedia.
    How can number 11 in this video with the related facts of a defined relationship be explained?? I don't understand it. Please give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberX View Post
    "A coincidence occurs when something uncanny, accidental and unexpected happens under conditions named, but not under a defined relationship." From Wikipedia.
    How can number 11 in this video with the related facts of a defined relationship be explained?? I don't understand it. Please give it a try.
    Don't have time to give a full analysis, but one thing I know is that some of his results are obvious "cherry picking." For example, in the case of the date 9/11/2001 he adds the digits of only the day and month to get 11, but in the case of 3/11/2004 he added all the digits to get 11. That is a GROSS case of cherry picking.

    But I do think there is a curiously high frequency of 11 related to that event. The fact that flight 11 struck the Twin Towers which look like a big "11" is impossible to miss. I'll write more after dinner.
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    Started listening to that wackjob YouTube video again. He ignorantly (or worse, deliberately) propagates the "Wrath of the Eagle" hoax, citing a non-existent verse from the Koran. I have no reason to waste my time beyond this point.
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    Thank you for giving it a try. You are done with it now, have no energy left to deal with it. You could delete two facts.

    Maybe we should filter the facts: which part is a simply not true, which part can be made up to make as much elevens as possible (by whoever) and which part are we unable to explain.

    Simply not true
    - The verse in the Koran. Everyone can easily check it.

    Can be made up
    - "in the case of the date 9/11/2001 he adds the digits of only the day and month to get 11, but in the case of 3/11/2004 he added all the digits to get 11." Now did nine-eleven became a word and three-eleven not, but originally they are dates.
    - A flight number can be made up, by the ones who showed us at CNN and ABC etc. Nobody was able to check it by looking at the event.
    - The total of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254, 2+5+4=11. Can be made up by someone and given to CNN, ABC etc. to inform us.

    Unable to explain
    - New York City has eleven letters
    - Afghanistan has eleven letters

    At this time I have no time to finish it. If someone else likes to finish it that's fine, just put every related from the video in a category.
    Last edited by NumberX; 05-05-2011 at 03:56 AM.

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    Thread needs to be moved to the 'Delusions' category.



    Thank you for giving it a try.
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    You are done with it now, have no energy left to deal with it.
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    You could delete two facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberX View Post
    Thank you for giving it a try. You are done with it now, have no energy left to deal with it. You could delete two facts.

    Maybe we should filter the facts: which part is a simply not true, which part can be made up to make as much elevens as possible (by whoever) and which part are we unable to explain.

    Simply not true
    - The verse in the Koran. Everyone can easily check it.

    Can be made up
    - "in the case of the date 9/11/2001 he adds the digits of only the day and month to get 11, but in the case of 3/11/2004 he added all the digits to get 11." Now did nine-eleven became a word and three-eleven not, but originally they are dates.
    - A flight number can be made up, by the ones who showed us at CNN and ABC etc. Nobody was able to check it by looking at the event.
    - The total of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254, 2+5+4=11. Can be made up by someone and given to CNN, ABC etc. to inform us.

    Unable to explain
    - New York City has eleven letters
    - Afghanistan has eleven letters

    At this time I have no time to finish it. If someone else likes to finish it that's fine, just put every related from the video in a category.
    I know I said I was "done" but now you've sparked my interest again because crap like that video saturates the internet and so should be debunked.

    The first thing to note is that I found another flat out lie in that moronic video. At 1:29 it states that "The total number of victims inside all the hijacked plains was 254." That is a flat out lie. The total number of victims was 246 (not counting the 19 hijackers, of course). This means that there are at least two blatant lies in the video. I don't know why anyone would produce such crap, but I'm quite happy to expose it as such.

    Now I don't understand your suggestion that the flight numbers and number of passengers could be "made up" by the news agencies. Why would they do that? Just to make numbers that fit the "11" pattern? That seems exceedingly unlikely, and easy to debunk. And besides, the real number of victims doesn't even match the "11" pattern!

    Now as for "New York City" having eleven letters. Great! "Twin Towers" has ten letters. If he were looking for a pattern based on "10" he would have presented that fact and ignored "New York City" just like he presented Flight 11 but ignored Flight 175 because the latter doesn't fit the "11" pattern. Likewise, he would have counted the ten letters of George Bush rather than the eleven letters of George W. Bush. Get it? The video is filled with cherry picking, number manipulation, and flat out lies. It's pure, unadulterated crap.

    Is there anything left you would like me to explain?

    All the best.
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