There are several scientific areas

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as we can see here, connected with the Bible.

A scientific approach can very well be a mathematical approach, which corresponds with the many counting, computing, computers of today. The word 'science' has to do with the greek 'mathema' and what I write here is a mathema-tical approach. I rather think in this simple verifiable scientific approach instead of a way with excavations. When you read my posts everywhere on the forum you will find many connections between biblical text and the creation itself, without the need of an archaeologist. And in every scientific area the scientists work with numbers. Not only scientists of course, everyone does it, for example when we look at the calendar and clock.

The six days of creation are written in 434 hebrew words*. The wordvalue of DaLeTH 4-30-400 is 434 and daleth means door, so the creation is a door. 434 is also the value of teled meaning 'to bare'. At birth we enter the creationdoor and our senses become developed. Where the beginning was before our birth, we can't tell. You can think about it, think back a bit, like how come your parents met, or how your forefathers life was, but already soon this going back stops in the material world. What we can see is the third or fourth offspring here in the material (some do).

The three and four
Daleth is also 4ever 'four', and in the first four times 'God says"** come the first three days into existance and they are the base for the next three days. The first three days are also mathematically the base for the six days: the 4 has the six in it: 1+2+3=6. And there are ten creation acts, mathematically seen this is 'with the 4 we come to the 10': 1+2+3+4=10. This may seem new to you and is explained here.

One of my posts of nature-science and Bible can be found here. We can put Biblical announcements in a sceme. You can do the same with minerals gold, silver etc. you don't need to be a rocket scientist to do that.

Psalms 24:1-2 speaks of the earth (eretz) and world (tebel) who are founded on seas (yam) and rivers. Yam is written as 10-40 and so this is the ratio 1:4. The formation story of Gen. 2 starts with the mist, written as 'd, a-d, 1-4, so this is also 1:4. I think the sea is written as plural because the 1:4 appears on more places, like in Gen. 2 and throughout the Bible. And not only in the Bible, but also in our bodies and other parts of the physical world. I have written in detail about the 1:4 ratio on other parts of the forum. By researching the hebrew word of the Word we make the connection. After the knowledge was lost about Psalms 24:1-2 they started to draw a picture of it: the earth as a disk floating on an ocean with fish around it stinging their heads out of the water. The water-nature is the left-nature, slow. The fire-nature is the right-nature. It is also like Abraham has to do with fire in his Biblical life (Sodom etc.) and Isaac has to do with water (finding his woman at a well etc.). Hebrew reads from right to left. And of course the right side of the creation story of Gen. 1 is about light and fire and the left side is about the waters and life in it. In the first word of the Bible 'bereshit' we can already find the word for fire: esh. And also covenant: brit. Here we have a covenant with fire (also in Maleachi 3:1-2). But that may be too brit-esh, british, for you dear reader. We understand that not everyone is British. Britain was the empire where the fiery sun never set.. Great Britain.

There is really no need to say that the Bible text can't be scientific, mathema-tically researched. A scientist can't produce a book or books (Biblia) like it with the gematria in it and the scemes related to the creation itself in it and with a structure like the Bible Wheel in it. I think they are not getting payed for proper research. Ivan Panin researched the New Testament in a scientific way and published his findings in the NEW YORK SUN, November 21, 1899. Of the nine noted rationalists, one was not 'interested' in the writer's 'arithmetical doings;' two 'regretted' that they had 'no time' to give heed thereto; another 'did not mean to be unkind, but...'; the rest were silent. Don't be amazed that scientists today are also... silent. I don't think this will change. But we can communicate about this knowledge by internet now, internet setup by scientists to communicate about knowledge.


* It is normal to count the words of a related passage, and also the letters thereof, and other aspects like how many times 'God says'.
** There is something about the letters of this word 'says' I have read about. They are the first letters of the word water, fire and air or something like that, in Hebrew of course.

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And I just learned about the intestines, viscera, digestion in us from a Jonah-course, Jonah is three days and nights in the instines of the big fish.

The intestines are the expression in our appearance of the phenomenon digestion, as we call it today. In hebrew it’s called ‘me-ei’ in it’s totality, 40-70-10. The food we eat is seperated in ‘good and bad’ in this place, the good is taken and the bad is seperated from it. In this place this happens independently of the conscious will of man. In the true digestion of man - in that what in his ‘120 years’ of his life served for this seperation (the word for digestion is also 120) - has much passed that never had to come to man. All our life we take things to us where we think of that are good for us, but our digestion seperates even out of the good things stuff that is not good for us. A big war of acids and enzymes etc. is going on in there but we don't notice it. We act and think and decide in the most part of our life unconsciously. This applies to everyone, you and me and a scientist and the Pope in Rome etc. Our intestines and digestion is also hidden. It crosses my mind that – in many cases - the older we become the more our bowels are pushed forward. So I think I'm going to do some abdominal muscle exercises now Do it too, it may be good for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixQGJ3Ja-2I

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I guess there is not much to discuss about the subject and nobody likes to add info. I feel I used the forum as a blog, yeah, I feel I was a forumblogger! A forumblogger gives info without the need to discuss it. A forumblogger likes to share his info with the world. A forumblogger has no blogsite. Forumblogger is a new word created by me and today I added it to your vocabulary.

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Water
Scientifically seen we qualify it as h2o. Water can be in a liquid form, damp, or ice. And we can learn about the cycle of clouds, rain, rivers, ocean and clouds. There are also underground wells and snow and ice on mountain tops etc. There is nothing wrong to learn about water on the planet and therefore nothing wrong to learn about the word water in the Bible who is on the planet too.

I came across the next info in the Jonah course.

On the second day God makes the rakia 200-100-10-70 to make division between the waters under the rakia and above the rakia. This division is the aspect of the left side, our material world, the duality occurs particularly here. To understand that the second and fifth day are on the left side you have to look at the sceme of the third picture here. The division between waters and waters is the expression of the duality of the left side, the material world, like it is hot and cold, there is long and short etc. We move also on two legs and feet.

The word water is written in the Bible as mayim: m-y-m, 40-10-40. Linguistic 'water' is 'double M' because the extension ayim means double. And this shows already that the surface value, the outer part, the visible part, carries duality in it. The 40 is already double-sighted, mirroring, like water indeed also is in it’s outer form to us, reflecting.

And here can be added that the letters which form the word mayim, 40-10-40, all show the duality in their full value. In their full value they are 80-20-80. So the full value of mayim is 180 and of course the double of the normal value which is 90. In all fields water expresses a duality.

The principle of the two-making division is rakia with word value 380 and the announcement of the coming into being of the second day, Gen 1:6-8, counts 38 words. God called rakia shamaim, 300-40-10-40, which is with word value 190 exactly half of it. What a coincidence.

For so far my forumblog of the water of the second day of creation and how reflecting it can be to us on the planet also.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

And I just learned about the intestines, viscera, digestion in us from a Jonah-course, Jonah is three days and nights in the instines of the big fish.

The intestines are the expression in our appearance of the phenomenon digestion, as we call it today. In hebrew it’s called ‘me-ei’ in it’s totality, 40-70-10. The food we eat is seperated in ‘good and bad’ in this place, the good is taken and the bad is seperated from it. In this place this happens independently of the conscious will of man. In the true digestion of man - in that what in his ‘120 years’ of his life served for this seperation (the word for digestion is also 120) - has much passed that never had to come to man. All our life we take things to us where we think of that are good for us, but our digestion seperates even out of the good things stuff that is not good for us.

Good insights! When I was writing the Bible Wheel book, I noticed that the "bowels" are the "watery" part of the body, and this coheres well with the Mem (water) KeyWord me-ei that means "bowels" and that this word is uniquely emphasized in Philemon on Spoke 13, corresponding to Mem of course. The article is called Spoke 13 - For Love's Sake, here is a snippet:



The archaic and somewhat quaint word "bowels" appears three times in the tiny book of Philemon, more than anywhere else in the New Testament. Paul used it with great effect to communicate the depth of his feelings for Onesimus whom he had "begotten" and whom he called "my own bowels." Hebrew translations always use the KeyWord me'eh for this word in Philemon and elsewhere, as when Jesus said "rivers of water" would flow from the belly (me'eh) of believers. This coheres precisely with the discussion above (BW book pg 265). This theme is amplified by five references to love which also link to the rabbinic tradition that sees love as "the secret of the letter Mem."

Richard

PS: Your admonition to do sit-ups is well received!

[Richard Amiel McGough]

In the first word of the Bible 'bereshit' we can already find the word for fire: esh. And also covenant: brit. Here we have a covenant with fire (also in Maleachi 3:1-2). But that may be too brit-esh, british, for you dear reader. We understand that not everyone is British. Britain was the empire where the fiery sun never set.. Great Britain.

The first word is a most amazing word. It has many very meaningful anagrams, such as brit esh (a fiery covenant, or a covenant of fire).

Here are a couple that have always impressed me:

Rosh Beyt = Head/Leader of the House. Quite appropriate for the first word of the Bible.

Abi Sharat = Father of the Ministry

I know there are more but I don't recall them right now (it's been a while).

As for the "british" - I think that a meaningless coincidence that should not be suggested since it makes the whole study look fool-ish ... that is, relating to fools. The "ish" ending means "origin, nature, resembling" - it has nothing to do with the concept of "fire" as in Hebrew.

All in all, a very interesting study!

Richard

[Richard Amiel McGough]

And here can be added that the letters which form the word mayim, 40-10-40, all show the duality in their full value. In their full value they are 80-20-80. So the full value of mayim is 180 and of course the double of the normal value which is 90. In all fields water expresses a duality.

This brings up an important question. It appears that are using MM = 80 as the name of the 13th letter. I use MYM = 90. When I began studying the full spelling of words I noticed that many Rabbis "played" with alternate values - especially when spelling the Tetragrammaton in which they would use Hey = HH = 10 or HY = 15 or HA = 6.

So I would always check alternate values, and after much study I became convinced that the name of the 13th letter should be spelled Mem = MYM = 90. I think the most convincing identity is this:

MESSIAH (Hb, full) = 90 + 360 + 20 + 418 = 888 = JESUS (Gk, IHSOUS)

Richard

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This is how I think about 'me-ei', mayim and British right now:

About the word 'me-ei':
Because 'my professor' writes that it refers to the total concept of digestion I did not know exactly how to translate it to english. I think the word bowels refer to part 3 to 9 in the picture? Digestion starts already a little bit in our mouth and the physical parts of the way of digestion are I think called intestines in English but also bowels and are a part of digestion. Maybe we should lift this word 'me-ei' to a higher level and read "rivers of water" flow from the digestion (me'eh as you call it) of believers? Onesimus means useful, profitable.

Mayim
The word Messiah is not so much related to science and a scientist may not like the Messiah. My goal was to write about water in a scientific way, how double it is in the Word in Gen. 1:6-7 when we read it and in the word Mayim itself as we look at it and how it reflects on the planet as we look at it, thus having a double character. And the water story is written on the left side of the creation account, the whole material world has this double character too, it is a water-world. This is to show how this part of the creation story is related to the world we live in.

On the plane of countries:
I think British is a degeneration of Brit-esh. The British empire was Leader of the world, Rosh Beyt = Head/Leader of the House. Quite appropriate for the first word of the Bible and the Birtish Empire.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

This is how I think about 'me-ei', mayim and British right now:

About the word 'me-ei':
Because 'my professor' writes that it refers to the total concept of digestion I did not know exactly how to translate it to english. I think the word bowels refer to part 3 to 9 in the picture? Digestion starts already a little bit in our mouth and the physical parts of the way of digestion are I think called intestines in English but also bowels and are a part of digestion. Maybe we should lift this word 'me-ei' to a higher level and read "rivers of water" flow from the digestion (me'eh as you call it) of believers? Onesimus means useful, profitable.

Mayim
The word Messiah is not so much related to science and a scientist may not like the Messiah. My goal was to write about water in a scientific way, how double it is in the Word in Gen. 1:6-7 when we read it and in the word Mayim itself as we look at it and how it reflects on the planet as we look at it, thus having a double character. And the water story is written on the left side of the creation account, the whole material world has this double character too, it is a water-world. This is to show how this part of the creation story is related to the world we live in.

On the plane of countries:
I think British is a degeneration of Brit-esh. The British empire was Leader of the world, Rosh Beyt = Head/Leader of the House. Quite appropriate for the first word of the Bible and the Birtish Empire.

On Mayim - I don't think any scientist would find these kinds of reflections illuminating. Scientists are looking for explanations that cohere with things like the Periodic Table, Chemistry, Electromagnetism, Physics, and so forth.

On British - why would you think that it is a "degeneration of Brit-esh" rather than a typical example of the "ish" ending of words in English? If it is a degeneration of Brit-esh then why does it look like, and have a similar meaning as, all the other "ish" words we see in English?

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About scientists: Yeah scientists are more connected to the formation story of Gen. 2, where the basic elements to research and form with are already created. He can research water for example by what temperature it freezes etc. And it is good that they invented plastic, what would the world be without it. If a scientist who wants to connect with the Bible wants to learn about creation, he can read this thread (others too of course). If a scientist can't bear the word Messiah, God, Lord, gematria and this thread, then, well, tsjah, pfft, let him invent things like plastic and that's it. We ourselves can enjoy learning about the rest.

British: Esh in Hebrew and ish in English as a degeneration from Hebrew to English is logical in this case of the first word I think because it is a most amazing word. I don't think it is a rule for other words. It is logical because I presented another fact to it, the British Empire and Leader of the World, Rosh Beyt = Head/Leader of the House. So it is quite appropriate for the first word of the Bible to connect it with the Birtish Empire on the plane of countries on the planet. I think it's easy to digest. And coincidentally the first word starts with great B also. We can ask ourselves who came up with the name for the empire.