Somthing occured to me this morning when I was just waking up. A lot of disputes and misunderstandings on this website and in Christianity in general seem to hinge on our inability to see another viewpoint. As if, because we have an idea of what is, or have come to some conclusion as to what some piece of scripture means, that that is ALL that it means.
The bible was/is written on levels or layers. (A flower as you put it) And what may be true on one layer may also be true on another layer, but after a different manner.
Here is what I thought. Based upon the bible wheel being a description or map of the Word of God has anyone looked at it based upon these lines in the book of Revelation;
Re 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Re 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, ...
Cycle 1 Torah, Widom and Old Testament History = That which was.
Cycle 2 Major Prophets, Minor Prophets and NT History = That which shall be.
Then there is the Cross and the fulfillment of the promises.
Cycle 3 New Testament Epistles = That which IS.
But here is the rub. This is he outward/World view,..the appearance of things.
The individual also has to come through the same process.
Also the law and the prophets BOTH prophecied. So did the epistles if you apply them to people (us) who were not born as yet when they were written.
Jacob saw a ladder and said "surely God IS in this place and I knew it not." Present time
Jesus said to Nathaniel that he would see greater things...angels ascending and descending upon the son of man. Present (at that time) prophecy of a future event for Nathaniel. He said it right after telling him he saw him under a tree, relating it back to Jacob's vision.
Joh 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
Mt 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God All three experiences have one thing in common (besides the tree image.)
They all are verifying the NOW presence of God.
The I Am. Their Will Be's and their have been's have boiled down to This Is and He Is. And that He is here and now.
All three had moved from theory to Knowedge in the biblcal sense of the word.
So, in effect, what I am saying is that the shall be's and have been's tend to be all moving us all towards the IS, the Now.
Just some thoughts,