Climate scientists did not lie

[CWH]

Climate scientists and CRU di not lie or manipulate data. Global warming is real.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_a...t/10538198.stm

[NumberX]

A new report! Do we need a new report? Climategate! We can read all the hacked emails for example at http://www.climategateemails.com/ and read a lot about it at www.climategate.com

But pfffftt, it is 30 degrees Celcius over here, I nearly start believing wicked scientists!

We have to keep in mind that they have a job where they get paid for. If their money-supplier wants them to tell us that, there are a percentage who will do that. The money-supplier put an amount of money for them to find evidence about it, they stimulated it this way. And the end-report was manipulated every year (the hocky-stick model). For manipulating the end-report, the money-supplier only needs to focus on the fews who make it.

The bottom line is: Here is a report from us! Citizens, pay more tax!
Our governments like to keep it this way. And a new report is made.

Weather changes by human activity can be made by planes, local and for a short period of time. Maybe all this fuzzy white stuff coming from the so-called chemtrail planes influence the weather, I don't know. We are not informed about what it is. Some say they spread barium in the air. I think it is not good. But hey, we live in a world that's no paradise.

[Rose]

Good old "Mother Nature" is the greatest polluter...look at all the ash that is being spewed out from the volcano in Iceland...


Rose

[NumberX]

Good old "Mother Nature" is the greatest polluter...look at all the ash that is being spewed out from the volcano in Iceland...


Rose

That's true and you can tell it to them and they probably know it also. But it comes to a personal level because they let you (all citizens) pay the related taxes based on their crooked reports.

[bonbon]

Global Warming is real and it is very likely anthropogenic – and when I say likely I mean I am 99.99 % sure of that assertion. From studies for similar periods (middle ice age) we know that the natural maximum of carbon dioxide is approximately 285 ppm (parts per million) in the atmosphere; now the number is 391 ppm (April, 2010). Even if we assumed that anthropogenic carbon dioxide does not affect the weather it is still important for humanity to create a global low carbon society; we will run out of fossil fuel, we will run out of Nuclear power and from there we need to focus on new resources. Furthermore, it will be good for all people’s health to decrease the pollution that is the cause of Global Warming.
More than 150 years ago (1824) scientists had theory on how a high amount of carbon dioxide could increase the atmospheric temperature and to my knowledge, the term 'Global Warming' already began in 1975 – scientists and politicians have known this for a long time; however, they have not been doing well in informing the people of how critical this is.

Around the entire world, scientists are trying to work out technologies so mankind can be independent of fossil fuel and personally I believe people should take some sort of responsibility and show their support by demanding green energy.

I am from Denmark so I am used to very high taxation from the government. I know I get a lot of security and benefits with my money and therefore I would not mind a little raise in the tax if it goes to create a sustainable future. They need to make these reports so people top-bottom acknowledges such thing as Global Warming – would you simply believe people when they claim 'We know Global Warming is true, because that is how we feel'? Personally, I would prefer 'We know Global Warming is true, because of the data we collected'.

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Global Warming is real and it is very likely anthropogenic – and when I say likely I mean I am 99.99 % sure of that assertion. From studies for similar periods (middle ice age) we know that the natural maximum of carbon dioxide is approximately 285 ppm (parts per million) in the atmosphere; now the number is 391 ppm (April, 2010). Even if we assumed that anthropogenic carbon dioxide does not affect the weather it is still important for humanity to create a global low carbon society; we will run out of fossil fuel, we will run out of Nuclear power and from there we need to focus on new resources. Furthermore, it will be good for all people’s health to decrease the pollution that is the cause of Global Warming.
More than 150 years ago (1824) scientists had theory on how a high amount of carbon dioxide could increase the atmospheric temperature and to my knowledge, the term 'Global Warming' already began in 1975 – scientists and politicians have known this for a long time; however, they have not been doing well in informing the people of how critical this is.

Around the entire world, scientists are trying to work out technologies so mankind can be independent of fossil fuel and personally I believe people should take some sort of responsibility and show their support by demanding green energy.

I am from Denmark so I am used to very high taxation from the government. I know I get a lot of security and benefits with my money and therefore I would not mind a little raise in the tax if it goes to create a sustainable future. They need to make these reports so people top-bottom acknowledges such thing as Global Warming – would you simply believe people when they claim 'We know Global Warming is true, because that is how we feel'? Personally, I would prefer 'We know Global Warming is true, because of the data we collected'.

Hey there Bonbon,

I'm glad you brought this up. It's good to have a "contrary" opinion. I have much I'd like to discuss, but first I'd like to know your opinion of the temperature increase that began in the middle of the 17th century and continues to this day. What caused the increase in temperature before humans changed the CO2 levels by burning oil in large quantities?

Richard

[Bob May]

Global Warming is real and it is very likely anthropogenic – and when I say likely I mean I am 99.99 % sure of that assertion. From studies for similar periods (middle ice age) we know that the natural maximum of carbon dioxide is approximately 285 ppm (parts per million) in the atmosphere; now the number is 391 ppm (April, 2010). Even if we assumed that anthropogenic carbon dioxide does not affect the weather it is still important for humanity to create a global low carbon society; we will run out of fossil fuel, we will run out of Nuclear power and from there we need to focus on new resources. Furthermore, it will be good for all people’s health to decrease the pollution that is the cause of Global Warming.
More than 150 years ago (1824) scientists had theory on how a high amount of carbon dioxide could increase the atmospheric temperature and to my knowledge, the term “Global Warming” already began in 1975 – scientists and politicians have known this for a long time; however, they have not been doing well in informing the people of how critical this is.


"..., however, there are other major problems regarding consumption of fossil fuel; we will run out of fuel in a "short" period of time and it is very bad for people’s health. I think these two reason, simply, are enough to conclude; we need to do to something about it.

I took an Earth Science class back in 1973-74 in which it was taught that we had only 7 years left of natural gas and 14 years left of oil on the planet.
You are correct in stating that scientists have not been "doing well" in informing us.
They have, however, been doing a very good job at indoctrinating us.

Nuclear power will not run out. The problem there is disposing of "spent fuel rods" I worked at a nuclear plant here in Illinois. And the problem was not even a place to put the spent rods but the inability of transporting them through states on there way to storage facility. Those states would not allow them to be transported through their land. So the nuke plants are stacking them.

Also nuclear power is not portable.

Electric cars still need to be plugged in so the so called "carbon footprint" is still being added to though I've heard that they don't count this as taxable???

The majority of mechanics of wind farms are made in China. The jobs created by them are minimal as is the power generated per cost of building and maintenance.

You are correct there needs to be better power sources but so far I don't see much happening there.

It should not suprise you that all this started back in the 70's.
It is an agenda driven collective of thought designed to increase taxes and ultimately make every American citizen dependent upon government. If it takes generations to accomplish it is not a problem. They are willing to wait.

If there is lying and number crunching involved, Oh well. The end jusifies the means.

That is "This World." It is the situation we are in. It might do you well to do an in depth study of that phrase in scripture. To see who is in charge of the seats of power in this world. Education, Science, Politics etc., etc.

By the way. If the problem is man made pollution, the solution is in China and India, not in the United States. They have surpassed us as far as the smog production and water and atmosphere pollution goes.

Start preaching to them and see how far you get.

Bob