Has God revealed the time of the end?

[76of86]

I was given the inspiration today to go back to the words in Scripture which proclaim that no man knows "that day or hour": But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Mark 13: 32 In my previous gematria examples the root word in Hebrew which I used for "no" in "no man" has the value of 61. The root word which I used for "not" has a gematria value of 31. I looked into the translations for "no man" used in the Bible, and this is written with either of these root words for "no." I then used the root word with the value of 31 instead of 61, and discovered the following.

But (H3588) of that (H1931) day (H3117) and hour (H8160) knoweth (H3045) no (H3808) man, not (H3808) the angels (H4397) which (H834) are in heaven, (H8064)not (H3808) the Son, (H1121) but (H3588) only (H3173) Jehovah, (H3068) the Father. (H1)
כִּי הוּא יוֹם שׁעה ידע לא אִישׁ לא מלאך אשׁר שׁמִים לא בּן כִּי יחִיד יהוה אב
3 + 26 + 32 + 30 + 52 + 31 + 390 + 501 + 91 + 31 + 311 + 31 + 84 + 375 + 56 + 12 + 30 = 2086

I cannot explain why these thoughts regarding the end time continue to come to me. This is something to which I had never given much thought, and is not something I fear or worry about. My only concern now is that I not proclaim a false prophecy. I know that it will be viewed with skepticism, but recently after praying for some assurance that what I have proclaimed is truly from God, I was awaken during the night, and thoughts entered my mind. It was as if someone was telling me to read the Book of Jeremiah in which I would find the answer. I then read: Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee and ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Jeremiah 1: 5. As I read through the rest of Jeremiah, the prophet expressed reservations about his call to be a prophet, but that he was compelled to do as God had commanded. I certainly do not see myself in any way as equal to Jeremiah, but I also have had doubts and reservations, but I am compelled to proclaim what I feel has been shown to me, no matter how I am perceived by others.

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[basilfo]

Hi 76,
How do you reconcile your 'time of the end' with the timing of the 'time of the end' given to Daniel in Dan 12:7? Daniel was told WHEN the time of the end would be.... "when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered". The 'holy people' were those in covenant with God at the time - the nation of Isreal.

According to Dan 12:7, at the 'time of the end', the power of the holy people will be completely shattered. The preterist has a perfect match for this shattering in AD70. But the futurist puts this chapter in the future. I have yet to find a futurist who can explain this verse (or chapter for that matter)in their 'last days' timeline. Who are the future holy people? What does it mean that their power is completely shattered?


Daniel 12:1 "At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands [watch] over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, [Even] to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book. 2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame [and] everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise shall shine Like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness Like the stars forever and ever. 4 "But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." 5 Then I, Daniel, looked; and there stood two others, one on this riverbank and the other on that riverbank. 6 And [one] said to the man clothed in linen, who [was] above the waters of the river, "How long shall the fulfillment of these wonders [be?"] 7 Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who [was] above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that [it shall be] for a time, times, and half [a time;] and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these [things] shall be finished. 8 Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, "My lord, what [shall be] the end of these [things?"] 9 And he said, "Go [your way,] Daniel, for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 "Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand. 11 "And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, [there shall be] one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 "Blessed [is] he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days. 13 "But you, go [your way] till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days."

Peace to you,
Dave

[CWH]

[QUOTE]

Hi 76,
How do you reconcile your 'time of the end' with the timing of the 'time of the end' given to Daniel in Dan 12:7? Daniel was told WHEN the time of the end would be.... "when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered". The 'holy people' were those in covenant with God at the time - the nation of Isreal.

According to Dan 12:7, at the 'time of the end', the power of the holy people will be completely shattered. The preterist has a perfect match for this shattering in AD70. But the futurist puts this chapter in the future. I have yet to find a futurist who can explain this verse (or chapter for that matter)in their 'last days' timeline. Who are the future holy people? What does it mean that their power is completely shattered?

Hi Dave,

Want a futurist explanation? Here I am.

"when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered" means that when the victorious power of Israel have been completely broken. Since independence in 1948, Israel have never suffered a defeat in its wars against the Arabs (Arab League). It shows that God is on their side. The moment that Israel suffered its first defeat with the Arabs (Arab League), that's the time of the last days. Therefore watch for such event in the Middle East, don't waste your time watching World Cup and Olympics.

Who are the future holy people? They are the people of modern Israel. I know the preterists will say that modern Israel has nothing to do with the prophesy because every prophesy was already over by AD 70. But my question is will God forsake Israel? Will God take back his promise to Israel?

Many Blessings.

[Rose]

Hi Dave,

Want a futurist explanation? Here I am.

"when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered" means that when the victorious power of Israel have been completely broken. Since independence in 1948, Israel have never suffered a defeat in its wars against the Arabs (Arab League). It shows that God is on their side. The moment that Israel suffered its first defeat with the Arabs (Arab League), that's the time of the last days. Therefore watch for such event in the Middle East, don't waste your time watching World Cup and Olympics.

Who are the future holy people? They are the people of modern Israel. I know the preterists will say that modern Israel has nothing to do with the prophesy because every prophesy was already over by AD 70. But my question is will God forsake Israel? Will God take back his promise to Israel?

Many Blessings.

Hi Cheow,

It makes no sense that the people of modern Israel would be called "holy people"! If secular modern Israel can be called God's holy people, then the United States can also be called God's holy people....then the prophecy of scattering the holy people gets really mixed up and confusing...

Rose

[CWH]

Hi Cheow,

It makes no sense that the people of modern Israel would be called "holy people"! If secular modern Israel can be called God's holy people, then the United States can also be called God's holy people....then the prophecy of scattering the holy people gets really mixed up and confusing...

Rose

Hi Rose,

There is nothing confusing. The scattering of the holy people happened in AD 70 when Jerusalem was destroyed and its inhabitants were forced to flee or were sent as captives to other areas in the Middle East and Europe.

God's holy people in Daniel referenced to the Jews of Israel. I know the preterists will argue that the Jews of modern Israel are not pure Jews but Zionists and therefore, has no bearing in biblical prophesy. But my question is still has God forsaken Israel? Where is the promise that Israel will be a GREAT nation? Is Israel now a great nation? Not yet, but it has certainly grown in greatness by being one of the most powerful nation in the Middle East and has a good standard of living. Economically, it is doing well. Israel is believed to possess nuclear weapon. So have God blessed Israel? I have yet to see USA in biblical prophesy.

Many Blessings.

[Rose]

Hi Rose,

There is nothing confusing. The scattering of the holy people happened in AD 70 when Jerusalem was destroyed and its inhabitants were forced to flee or were sent as captives to other areas in the Middle East and Europe.

God's holy people in Daniel referenced to the Jews of Israel. I know the preterists will argue that the Jews of modern Israel are not pure Jews but Zionists and therefore, has no bearing in biblical prophesy. But my question is still has God forsaken Israel? Where is the promise that Israel will be a GREAT nation? Is Israel now a great nation? Not yet, but it has certainly grown in greatness by being one of the most powerful nation in the Middle East and has a good standard of living. Economically, it is doing well. Israel is believed to possess nuclear weapon. So have God blessed Israel? I have yet to see USA in biblical prophesy.

Many Blessings.

Hi Cheow,

God has not forsaken anyone, including the nation of Israel.

Rom.11:31-33 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

God did make of Israel a great nation....all who believe in Christ have an inheritance in the Kingdom of God, thus being part of the New Jerusalem. And it don't get no GREATER than that!

Rose

[76of86]

bailfo:

You posed the question concerning how to reconcile the time of the end which seems to be revealed through gematria as the year 2086 with Daniel 12: 7: And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters in the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth forever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Prior to this verse, Scripture says that the words are shut up and sealed until knowledge shall be increased. I used the method of gematria which has been given to me through a supernatural inspiration, and this is what I found.

I sware (H7650) by him that liveth (H2416) forever (H5769) that (H3588) it shall be a time,(H4150) times, (H4150) and a half; (H2677) and when he shall have accomplished (H3615) to scatter (H5310) the power (H3027) of the holy (H6944) people, (H5971) all (H3605) these (H428) things shall be revealed (H1540) and it shall be finished. (H3615)
שׁבע חִי עולם כִּי מוֹעד מוֹעד חצִי כּלה נפץ יד קדשׁ עם כּל אלּה גּלה כּלה
55 + 38 + 36 + 50 + 110 + 404 + 14 + 230 + 55 + 30 + 146 + 18 + 372 = 1906

THE YEAR (H8141) TWO (H8147) THOUSAND (H505) EIGHTY (H8084) SIX (H8337)
שׁנה שׁנִים אלף שׁמנִים שׁשׁ
600 + 440 + 111 + 400 + 355 = 1906

I certainly do not have all of the answers as to how to interpret the specifics of this prophecy, but it seems that the end will come when the power of the holy people, i.e. all believers, will be scattered throughout the world and God's plan that all should hear the gospel will have been accomplished. I beleive that this can occur by the year 2086.

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[76of86]

There is a passage of Scripture in Revelation which is quite similar to that of Daniel 12: 7: And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, and sware by him that liveth forever and ever, who created earth and the things that therein are, and the earth and the things that therein are, and the earth and the things that are therein, that there shall be time no longer. But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Revelation 10: 5-7 There should be no doubt that these verses relate to the time of the end, and not the time of Jerusalem's fall in the first century AD.

In a number of ways, the time of the end is revealed by the gematria value of root words in Hebrew which restate this Biblical truth which was written in Greek. (The word "mystery" is not used in King James Version of the OT, and so in the first example I have used the root word for "secret," which has the closest meaning.)

In the days (H3117) of the voice (H6963) of the seventh (H7637) angel, (H4397) when (H3588) he shall begin (H2490) to sound, (H6963)the mystery (H5641) of God (H430) shall be finished, (H3615) as he has declared (H5046) to his servants, (H5650) the prophets. (H5030)
יוֹם קוֹל שׁבִיעִי מלאך כִּי חלל קוֹל סתר אלהִים כּלה נגד עבד נבִיא
63 + 76 + 57 + 55 + 86 + 660 + 136 + 68 + 30 + 91 + 392 + 136 + 56 = 1906

THE YEAR (H8141) TWO (H8147) THOUSAND (H505) EIGHTY (H8084) SIX (H8337)
שׁנה שׁנִים אלף שׁמנִים שׁשׁ
600 + 440 + 111 + 400 + 355 = 1906

In the NIV the word "mystery" is used in translation for the root word in Hebrew used in the following examples. Also, the truth can be revealed by using different root words as used in Scripture for "but."

But (H3588) (H518) in the days (H3117) of the voice (H6963) of the seventh (H7637) angel, (H4397) when (H3588) he shall begin (H2490) to sound, (H6963) all (H3605) the mysteries (H7328) of God (H430) shall be finished (H3615) as he has declared (H5046) unto (H413) his servants, (H5650) the prophets. (H5030)
כִּי אם יוֹם קוֹל שׁבִיעִי מלאך כִּי חלל קוֹל כּל רז אלהִים כּלה נגד אל עבד נבִיא
63 + 76 + 31 + 57 + 55 + 86 + 207 + 50 + 136 + 68 + 30 + 91 + 392 + 136 + 56 + 41 + 30 = 1605

TWO THOUSAND (G1367) EIGHTY (no Strong's number) SIX (G1803) = δισχιλιοι ογδοηκοντα εξ = 944 + 596 + 65 = 1605

But (H389) in the day (H3117) the voice (H6963) of the seventh (H7637) angel (H4397) shall begin (H2490) to sound, (H6963) the mystery (H7328) of God (H430) shall be finished (H3615) as the Father (H1) has declared (H5046) to his servants (H5650) the prophets (H5030) and the end (H319) shall come to pass. (H1961)
אך יוֹם קוֹל שׁבִיעִי מלאך חלל קוֹל רז אלהִים כּלה אב נגד עבד נבִיא אחרִית הִיה
20 + 619 + 63 + 76 + 57 + 3 + 55 + 86 + 207 + 136 + 68 + 91 + 392 + 136 + 56 + 21 = 2086

When (H3588) the voice (H6963) of the seventh (H7637) angel (H4397) shall begin (H2490) to sound (H6963) all (H3605)the mysteries (H7328) of God (H430) shall be finished (H3615) as he has declared (H5046) to his servants (H5650) the prophets (H5030) and the end (H319) shall come to pass. (H1961)
כִּי תהֶ קוֹל שׁבִיעִי מלאך חלל קוֹל כּל רז אלהִים כּלה נגד עבד נבִיא אחרִית הִיה
20 + 619 + 63 + 76 + 57 + 55 + 86 + 207 + 50 + 136 + 68 + 91 + 392 + 136 + 30 = 2086

But (H3588) in the day (H3117) when (H3588) the voice (H6963) of the seventh (H7637) angel (H4397) shall sound, (H6963) the mystery (H7328) of God (H430) shall be finished (H3615) as he has declared (H5046) to his servants (H5650) the prophets (H5030) and there shall be (H1961) time (H6256) no (H3808) longer. (H3254)
כִּי יוֹם כִּי קוֹל שׁבִיעִי מלאך קוֹל רז אלהִים כּלה נגד עבד נבִיא הִיה עת לא יסף
150 + 31 + 470 + 20 + 63 + 76 + 57 + 55 + 86 + 207 + 136 + 91 + 392 + 136 + 30 + 56 + 30 = 2086

As I was calculating the gematria value for various combinations of words related to this prohecy, I came across the following random association.

But (H3588) in the day (H3117) the seventh (H7637) angel (H4397) shall begin (H2490) to sound, (H6963) the mystery (H7328) of God (H430) shall be finished (H3615) ans he has declared (H5046) to his servants, (H5650) the prophets. (H5030)
כִּי יוֹם שׁבִיעִי מלאך חלל קוֹל רז אלהִים כּלה נגד עבד נבִיא
63 + 76 + 57 + 55 + 86 + 207 + 136 + 68 + 91 + 392 + 56 + 30 = 1317

LAST/END (G2078) = εσχαταις = 1317
REVELATION (G602) = αποκαλυψει = 1317

These are just a few of the gematria confirmations of the prophecy of the voice of the seventh angle in which the year 2086 is indicated. Decide for yourself is this is coincidental.

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[EndtimesDeut32/70AD]

There is a passage of Scripture in Revelation which is quite similar to that of Daniel 12: 7: And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, and sware by him that liveth forever and ever, who created earth and the things that therein are, and the earth and the things that therein are, and the earth and the things that are therein, that there shall be time no longer. But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Revelation 10: 5-7 There should be no doubt that these verses relate to the time of the end, and not the time of Jerusalem's fall in the first century AD.

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There is much doubt and reason to doubt that the angel is referring to the "end of time". Epecially from text itself. He is talking about the end of time for the mystery (and plan) of God which he had declared to his sevants the prophets to be completed.

Earlier in the chapter one foot is on land and one in the sea. One opinion and view is that the land represents the mosaic land/nation covenant people and ordinances (the Jews) and the 'sea' represents those outside of that failing and ending covenant. The symbolism is that these events effect all peoples of all nations through the administration of the higher ordinances of the covenant of Mercy!! It was not just about Jerusalems fall in 70 AD,but the completion of the prophecies that were written during and within the administration of the mosaic coveant and through it's prophets about the time of the end of that covenant revealing its principles and purposes and the full completion and establishment of the individualized covenant of Mercy. Those fulfillments and the end of the mosaic covenant 'age' and it's 'world' occured in the first century.

that there shall be time no longer

If one focuses one this part of the whole passage and it's anglicized and literal rendering rather than it's contextual meaning it could indicate that this is talkng about the "end of time", but if it's allowed to meld into the context, it's referring to the talking about the end of the time God alloted for the mystery(s) and end (ultimate) purposes of God to be revealed which he had prophesied, forecast and foreordained through His prophets. Those ultimate "end purposes" and their knowledge are administered individually and to all peoples, languages and tounges as was promised to Daniel and John and the other prophets. By ending the mosaic conditional/national covenant of the unchanged heart He proclaimed that this is "NOT" the way even though He had moved mightily through Moses to establish those types, shadows and pattern in the idolotrous people. (Again, read Deuteronomy) The WAY is through the spiritual seed of the individuals like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel who are justified by faith, recieving the promise of the adoption as sons through the atonement of Christ against the law of sin/death.

Also, the truth can be revealed by using different root words as used in Scripture for "but."

But there should be no reason to have to do this.

These are just a few of the gematria confirmations of the prophecy of the voice of the seventh angle in which the year 2086 is indicated. Decide for yourself is this is coincidental.

..... or manipulated?

[76of86]

I suspect that the vast majority of Christians interpret the Revelation of John in relation to the end time, when there will be a final judgment. I have shown a number of gematria correlations related to the time of the end using Hebrew root words to determine the gematria value of a sentence. Although this method of using root words in Greek is more difficult, it does reveal the same year.

Watch ye therefore: ye know not when the master of the house cometh... Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. Mark 13: 35-36

The day (G2250) Jesus (G2424) shall come (G2064) to earth (G1093) suddenly. (G1819)
̓’Ημερα ̔’Ιησοῦς ερχομαι γῆ εξαπινα = 154 + 888 + 826 + 11 + 207 = 2086

The time (G2540) of the coming (G1529) is (G2076) at hand. (G1451)
Καιρος εισοδος εστι ̓εγγυς = 401 + 559 + 515 + 611 = 2086

In the end Jesus will appear a second time: ...and unto them that look for him shall he appear a second time without sin unto salvation. Hebrew 9: 28

He that is worshipped (H4574) shall appear (G3700) a second time. (G1208)
Σεβασμα οπτανομαι εκ δευτερος = 449 + 622 + 25 + 1084 = 2180

THE YEAR (G2094) TWO THOUSAND (G1367) EIGHTY (no Strong's number) SIX (G1803)
Ετος δισχιλιοι ογδοηκοντα εξ = 575 + 944 + 596 + 65 = 2180

In the end the kingdoms of the world will become the Kingdom of God: The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our Lord, and his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 11: 15

Now (G3568) the kingdoms (G932) of this world (G2889) are become (G1096) the Kingdom (G932) of God. (G2316)
Νῦν βασιλεια κοσμος γινομαι βασιλεια Θεος = 500 + 259 + 600 + 184 + 259 + 284 = 2086

The hoped for Kingdom (G932) of God (G2316) is at hand. (G1451)
Ελιπζω βασιλεια Θεος εγγυς = 932 + 259 + 284 + 611 = 2086

The end will be the time of judgment: The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished. 2Peter 2: 9

The unjust (G94) man (G435) to be punished (G2849) the day (G2250) of judgment. (G2920)
Αδικος ανηρ κολαζω ημερα κρισις = 305 + 159 + 928 + 154 + 540 = 2086

The heavens and earth are kept in store for judgment: But the heavens and earth, which are now, by the same word kept in store, reserved unto fire for the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2Peter 3: 7

The earth (G1093) kept in store (G2343) for judgment. (G2920)
Γῆ θησαυριζω κρισις = 11 + 1535 + 540 = 2086

Now is the judgment of this world... John 12: 31

Now (G3568) is (G2076) the judgment (G2920) of (G1537) the world. (G2829)
Νῦν εστι κρισις εκ κοσμος = 500 + 515 + 540 + 25 + 600 = 2180

THE YEAR TWO THOUSAND EIGHTY SIX
Ετος δισχιλιοι ογδοηκοντα εξ = 575 + 944 + 596 + 65 = 2180

These are a few of the sentences related to end time prophecies in which root words in Greek reveal the year of the end.

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