Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1959
Just a quick follow up on our discussion of the NHNE. As can be clearly shown from Scripture that references to Jerusalem are symbolic peoples, so it can also be shown that references to the heaven and earth are places people dwell in (kingdoms) or dwell under (systems).
Doing a brief overview of Old and New Testament usage of heaven and earth, I will show key verses that present a clear understanding of the symbolic meaning of heaven and earth as a ruling system people dwell in. First we know that God’s dwelling place is on His Throne in heaven. God also dwelt on earth in the Holy of Holies, so it can be safely said that God dwells in heaven and on earth. The kingdom of heaven is the ruling system God uses to govern people just as a king on earth rules his kingdom.
2Chron.6:14 And said, O LORD God of Israel, there is no God like thee in the heaven, nor in the earth; which keepest covenant, and shewest mercy unto thy servants, that will walk before thee with all their hearts:….18) But God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!...33) Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for; that all people of the earth may know thy name, and fear thee, as doth thy people Israel, and may know that this house which I have built is called by thy name.
Ecc.5:2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.The laws of the Old Covenant were called the “ordinances of heaven”, denoting a system of rule that governed those who were under it. The elements of the heaven and earth that the Apostle Peter said would be dissolved and burned up was stoicheion meaning the “principles of the law”…..so what he was saying was that the laws or ordinances of the old heaven and earth were going to be completely destroyed (physically manifest when the Temple was knocked down and burned up), with the New Heaven and Earth taking its place (aka. New Covenant, Kingdom of Heaven).
Psalm 103:19 The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.
Dan. 4:26 And whereas they commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots; thy kingdom shall be sure unto thee, after that thou shalt have known that the heavens do rule.
Ezr.1:2 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.
Matt.3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matt.5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
Jer.33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Heb.9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances that were under the first testament, of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary….15) And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance….23) It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
Luke 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
2Pet.3:10-13 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements (stoicheion) shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements (stoicheion) shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.As can be seen from a very few verses, a strong case can be made for identifying the Heavens and Earth as a ruling system, just as I previously identified Jerusalem as God’s chosen people.