I'm beginning to like our newcomer here. Interesting post Rick. Do you reside in the states? Or are you overseas? I hope you don't mind me asking.
Also, it would be easier for me in reading your replies if you not include your replies in a quote. I had a difficult time trying to discern what I wrote, and what your replies were. I figured it out of course, but some of the "black" writing was not mine.
You made a comment about the Roman Catholic Church when I said it was the original Church, and I'd like to reply to that, but this isn't the Thread to do so. So I'm going to start a topic on another Thread, but not in the eschatology forum. What I will say is in the beginning New Testament Church era, there was only one Church and it was called, "One Holy Catholic Church". These consisted primarily of Eastern and Western, but there were different Churches all over. And of course, none of them agreed as is seen in a few of their writings. After the Apostles left, some of the Early Church Fathers bickered over different things. Some were Jewish sympathizer's, while others recognized that the need for the Israeli based Tribal race had been abolished. OK, I drifting here. So the Church was still recognized as Catholic, which simply means "Universal" for all races.
Somewhere along the line, the Church of Rome decided to enact a leader like Peter, who was one of the leaders of the Church in Jerusalem. Because of wide spread persecution in later centuries by the Muslims, the Christians wanted someone to turn to. And thus the creation of the Pope. The Greeks of course rejected this notion, and in the 10th century, they the Church split, with one side being called Roman Catholic and the other side Greek Orthodox Church. In the 14th century, the rise of the Heuganauts (Protestants) came about, thus creating even more confusion. Since the 10th century, the Greeks continue to reject any idea of a Pope. There have been good Popes and there have been bad Popes. But in my opinion, the Pope is not necessarily a bad thing. At the same time, I see no need for one. One thing I will say though. The Protestants have become so divided, so loud mouthed, and so undisciplined, that perhaps they too need a Protestant leader to get them back into check. There's too many doctrines floating around the Protestant world, and it's becoming quite intolerable. Quite frankly, some of them need to stop pointing their dirty eye-clogging fingers at the others; especially those of the 7th Day Adventist. I have never in my life met such a rude group of so-called Christians. They are the most naive, narrow minded, and big-headed group I've ever met. Everybody is going to hell if you don't believe and worship as they do.
As for me, I was raised Southern Baptist. But the only thing good about Southern Baptists are their cook-outs. Doctrine is fair, but far from perfect. Too much Calvinist influence with the false teaching of eternal security. And of course their rejection of Baptism. Other than that, they sure cook up a good meal.
OK, sorry for drifting folks. Just getting to know Rick a little better.
Now about the 200,000,000 man army. I've already informed Cheow that we don't ride horses anymore, nor do we fight with spears, and arrows. And the Euphrates river isn't going to stop anyone from invading Israel. We've got missiles, planes, jeeps, hummers, boats, you name it. A little river would not stop anyone from invading Israel...which is quite the distance from the Euphrates River I might add. So his reasoning that the Revelation has not been fulfilled based on the literal interpretation of the ER drying up is not wise. Christ expects His children to listen to what the Spirit is saying in these visions, and NOT what the literal word is saying.
Israel is more than just a race; it is more than just a nation; it is the people of God, from faith, by faith, and only faith. Those who assemble in the name of Christ Jesus, embrance Israel because they are Israel