Third Temple

[Bob May]

Hello again Bob!!!


שם המפורש = Shem ha'Mephorash. . .and those who are clueless about Hebrew linguistics, spell and speak differently than what is actually written and correctly spoken. You can't help but note this everywhere all the time with every word under the sun compared to knowing the Hebrew texts. When you are referring to this though, why can't you also consider it in terms of 8...24...72...216???
...and that's alot of petros for the buck; but it is noted Petra figures into this relative to Yakov.
...and Shim'on onto Kefa.
Thank bunches again. Time to look deeper still.

My mistake, I meant Shema Israel. "Hear oh Israel..." I was relating hearing as being the first sign of the covenant...
But what you brought up about the 72 names and hosts and such would also figure. The angels ascending and descending perhaps.

My Rabba whispered in this ear one time that Shem ha'Mephorash itself is actually a corruption of the names of the sons of Noach combined. Being Adonai of all He created, unto all human progeny of he knowing grace in the LORD's eyes, the title was originally SHemHAmYefet. (Surely you can now see the implications of grace in this indirect name/title of tetragrammaton and the 72 host.

So Ham, Yefet and Shem would be body, soul and spirit. Nepesch, Ruach and Neshamah. Very cool! I had never heard of that before. Thanks right back at you.

Timmy
Originally Posted by Codger

But this serves Gods purpose which is to get them to the Cross by using extreme pressure - just like he has done to most of us. How many here have come to the Lord in great difficulty and pain. Count me in. We only seem to be open to hearing from God when we get to the end of ourselves - which is where the Jews are going. God loves us enough that he puts extreme pressure on us. If he did nothing we would just perish in our sins.

Larry
YES! The most extreme difficulty and pain so severe i could only remain conscious for between 3-5 minutes before the medical staff was gathered around my body again should i leave again. Count me in too, brother. i had to hit botom and then have the bottom fall out from beneath before i finally screamed out to Yeshua to deliver me out of my wayward walk directly into the fanged jaws of death snapping shut. He knew i never would have come to depend completely on Him if i were not thrust beyond ability to even reach for the end of my rope....and i praise Him for who he is
...and thank Him for all He has done for us all.

God Bless us everyone,

Tiny Tim

"End of your rope" and "end of ourselves" is exactly how I look at it. God paints us into a corner as individuals and the destroying of the temple painted the first century Jews into a corner as a group trying to follow a belief system which they were meant to fail at.

Jesus illustrates that in trying to keep the law we end up breaking the law.
Joh 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
Joh 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

It is like a general landing his troops in a country he is invading. He then burns the ships so his army realizes that they cannot go back, but need to keep going forward. That was the destroying of the physical temple.
Now there are those who want to build it again. To build the ships again to retreat from and internal battle that we are meant to engage in.

Oh, and no, a house was not dropped on the Queen of the South, but Lotus Feet is far more spot on than most either care or dare to admit. Timmy

When the veils drop there are all kinds of signs and wonders all seemingly pointing toward you. And in a way they are. It is easy to misinterpret those signs for the very fact that no one else seems to be aware of what you are aware of.
I don't doubt that she was seeing some deeper aspects of Reality. Only that she was misinterpreting what she was seeing.

Another case of coming to the end of your rope.
I was in a very similar situation many years ago. It was not until I called on Jesus' name that I began to come back from it. I had gone to Carbondale IL to leave everything and everyone I knew. It was part of the teachings of Don Juan. All that I did for a few years was based on his teachings that were to result in "Stopping the World." Well, it stopped!!! And I was completely engulfed in the reality that I was living in two worlds at once. For months it was like I was on an acid trip that would not stop. Like I said, I called on Jesus for help and began to get better, gradually. And in the mean time I returned to live with my parents in order to get my feet back on the ground and re-evaluate, knowing that there was something beyond "normal" awareness. I would attempt again later, but for the time being, I was in need of stability.

It was not until years later that I put it together. I was reading the bible and the line "Out of Egypt have I called my son." That entire area of Southern IL is known as "Little Egypt."
That was a sign for me. Sometimes the bible reaches out and touches you personally.
But did that sign mean that I am the Son of God? No, but I do believe it was telling me I am A son of God.
Being able to see the difference is Lotus' problem.

Lotus may be spot on on many things, she quotes a lot of scripture. I would be interested to know what things you are referring to.
My heart really does go out to her, especially having gone through something similar.
I have frequented a forum for the last 10-11 years on and off. They dealt mostly with the followers of Carlos Castaneda's books. Many have followed his "Teachings of Don Juan" and methods. Many have opened doors of perception. And many have gotten lost. I was one and was able with Jesus help to get out of it.
And many of those people are young and impressionable and are open to a better Path.

Bob

[Richard Amiel McGough]

Oh, and no, a house was not dropped on the Queen of the South, but Lotus Feet is far more spot on than most either care or dare to admit. BTW, Lotus Feet was glad when i cut DoorT's legs off at the ankles, put on the Ruby slippers, and gave the feet to her. She said she was growing weary of walking on 2000 petals anyway.

Oh my. This can't be real. Timmy thinks the Queen of Bullshit is "spot on" and that we don't "dare" to admit it?????

This requires the throwing of a gauntlet.

Please name three things that she was "spot on" about but which "we" do not dare admit.

I dare ya!

Smiles dude!

Richard

[MuadDib987]

I should *probably* read through the whole thread before asking, but: you don't find this disturbing that they're going full-speed-ahead to reconstruct a condemned building, which was deemed obsolete by God nearly 2000 years ago?

O_o

I have decided to create a new thread so that members could followup and put news of the progress of the third temple to be rebuilt in Jerusalem.

There is already a plan to rebuilt the third temple in Jerusalem. The Jews in Israel have already prepared many articals necessary for the 3rd temple.

http://www.squidoo.com/templejerusalem

Third Temple Plans for Rebuilding in Jerusalem.

They could start building tomorrow. There are 12 groups that are in preparation. They've chosen the location, a computer registry of 300,000 of the sons of Aaron (the Levites), many robes are prepared, over 150 sacred vessels have already been restored, including some of the most difficult and complicated projects, such as the Menorah and the precious stones of the High Priest's breastplate. The architects are selected to rebuild with plans according to the bible. All but the ark of the covenant, which they believe is there. Also needed is a pure red heifer.

Discoveries about the temple, sacrifice, offerings, covenants, rebuilding of a new temple and more. See vessels that are ready and where the temple could be rebuilt.



Things look exciting now.

Many Blessings.

[CWH]

I should *probably* read through the whole thread before asking, but: you don't find this disturbing that they're going full-speed-ahead to reconstruct a condemned building, which was deemed obsolete by God nearly 2000 years ago?

O_o

Precisely my thought and that is the gist of this thread. The First and Second Temple was destroyed by God because of the sin of those people who were not sincere in their worship and love of God. What's the point of a house of worship if the people do not sincerely worship, praise and love God but abuse it for greed and selfish purposes? As such God showed them that then it is better to worship in spirit and in truth which was why the temples were destroyed so as to teach those people a lesson. And God has been telling them that it is not necessary to worship God in a Temple but one can worship God anywhere as long as it is done in spirit and in truth. I see the same with the Third Temple when it is built. It will be destroyed eventually which I believe in 7 years time from the time the Temple is completed. Only then will God built His own Temple and not by human hands (Spiritual and Physical) which will never be destroyed as stated in the books of Revelation and Daniel. People just do not learned; it is the heart that God is after not the worship alone. When we worship, we must worship in spirit and in truth, same as we would love God with all our heart, soul, mind and might. Worship God in spirit and in truth means worship God Sincerely.

Let's Love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength.

[Timmy]

"Oh my. This can't be real. Timmy thinks the Queen of Bullshit is "spot on" and that we don't "dare" to admit it?????"

Uhhh, what about, "We just gotta' go save Timmy who has lost himself on a delusional vision quest" or sumpin' 'ike 'at?

UHhmm....
wa preceeded by the words "is far more,"
--the words "far more" are preficated adjectives and 7 symbols so these take precedence...--
--or the 3 words taken together equal 9 symbols which means WAR...--
as in "being often" accurate though presentation often leaving something to be desired for other who might just draw erroneous conclusions as a result.
[Then again, who here now realizes the intentionality of that? i sometimes intermittently play the exact same game.]

As for the word "dare" there should have been more clarity, as i was thinking in reference to this little ram right here, and how from her text, after taking away the symbolically not yet understood or misappropriately applied in this brain (according to current POV compared to Thee Empress) it all makes a whole lot more sense.
[i just reversed 'THE PROCESS'<==(Her hint BTW) i usually use when writing in like manner of the Queen of the South, and WALA! Everything became clear as a bell.]

anyway, that which you may have assumed to be a spark in this eye was actually the result of a lightleak in my ages old casket. Last time an open seam let the light get in, the flesh of my big right toe burned so bad, i can't even walk normal anymore.
(It's really no big deal because i usually fly or levitate anyway. It's just that climbing up and down walls now presents quite the challenge.)

This time when it happened, being in such a state of morte', suspended animation in the extreme, it was not til' these nostrils were stinging from inhaling the bitter smoke of burning flesh that i came to. Now i type with two thumbs, seven fingers, and a bone which was once covered in flesh (though pallid). Until i pulled off that still hot obsidian ring engraved with our Draconian family crest, it wasn't even realized the seared flesh had fused to it. You cannot imagine how unnerving it is to hear irregularily intermittent clicks on the keyboard while typing.


i should have been more clear and avoided ruffling feathers...uhhh, i mean rousing the horns of RAM.

ANYWAY

Meet a couple of my Jewish friends
(the ones--the two--who are front and center)

RAM just having had it with all the BATexcrementation flying all over the place states,This requires the throwing of a gauntlet.

Wifey's brothers say it like this: "U upta' frow down? Cmon nahh..."

I'm a lover not a fighter...but if you insist, hoping to disuade you, please read the words while listening:

RAM then issues the challenge,Please name three things that she was "spot on" about but which "we" do not dare admit...

I dare ya!

Smiles dude!


Richard

After realizing the message hidden in plain sight using Brand X Psychobabble Rap, all the posts were again gone through from the beginning with the realization these things were not meant for the casual viewer who is thinking this only to be an entertainment guild.

There are more than three but we can begin with what first hit home here, from just one post from "Thread: Why are Christians looking in texts instead of for the one?" /p. 6, #59: http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/show...-the-one/page6

1.)"...'delusion' should be corrected if you refer to the Strongs Lexicon.

The Greek words is 'Plane' and it means 'wandering', 'straying'. Strongs 4106.

The word comes from 'Planos' and it means 'wandering', like 'roving'. Strongs 4108 Like Obama and his roving eye. Obama wandered by go off and promoting Islam. His sexuality is also in question, including the two murders of the two gay men at his Church that knew too much..."


2.)"THURSDAY, 15 APRIL 2010

The Virgin -v- Son of Lawlessness

There is a text called the Apocalypse of Zephaniah and it mentions the Virgin. This text was mentioned by the highly respected Clement of Alexandria who was the teacher of Origen. Origen translated and compiled the books that were included in the second version of the bible. In the letters of St Jerome it also mentions a prediction that she would return when Saturn was in Virgo and this was another timing link for the last days of the end times.

"The Virgin struggles against this imposter and is joined by sixty just ones who show that the Son of Lawlessness is not the Anointed One. The Anointed One eventually sends angels from heaven. The text ends with an apocalyptic vision of the judgment and the end of the earth. The longer Akhmimic text does not mention Sophonias (or Zepheniah) but describes how the Seer, led by the Angel of the Lord, sees the entire earth and learns that the departed righteous dwell in a place of perpetual light."


The man of lawlessness is also mentioned in the New Testament, the Christ described him as one that would stand where he did not belong and in the Dead Sea Scrolls he is the 'Usurper'.


3.)


(From this POV he is one of many, but a glaring example of Puppetmaster Sorcery by the Church of Latter Day Satanists ...and just think how decieved Amerika really is to have elected this one, playing a personality cult game over the presidency (of all things,) T totally ignoring the more important issues. Now, of all things thought regarding this, blind leading the blind goads this mind.)

ENDNOTE
"His disciples will have to look more saved if I am to believe in their Savior.""
~Friedrich Nietzsche

"Where is the philosopher? Where is the scholar? Where is the debater of this age? Hasn’t God made the world’s wisdom foolish? For since, in God’s wisdom, the world did not know God through wisdom, God was pleased to save those who believe through the foolishness of the message preached. For the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles. Yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is God’s power and God’s wisdom, because God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength. Brothers, consider your calling: Not many are wise from a human perspective, not many powerful, not many of noble birth. Instead, God has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in the world to shame the strong. God has chosen what is insignificant and despised in the world — what is viewed as nothing — to bring to nothing what is viewed as something, so that no one can boast in His presence. But it is from Him that you are in Christ Jesus, who became God-given wisdom for us — our righteousness, sanctification, and redemption, in order that, as it is written: The one who boasts must boast in the Lord."
I Corinthians 1.20-31 HCSB

Such a motley crew, aren't we?
The ignoble and the weak and the foolish.

....and once Yeshua puts his life into us, we sometimes then think we are really something all the while forgetting who is the One source of our living...yet we all have this in common: we have that deep sense of desperate need, and we have faith to believe.

So Jesus is impartial. "God is...says the apostle...no respecter of...what? ...persons." There's neither male nor female, Jew nor Greek, bond or free, rich or poor. All are one..."

"Who could've predicted that God would choose not Esau, the honest and reliable, but Jacob, the trickster and heel? Who could have predicted that God would put his finger on Noah, who hit the bottle? Or on Moses, who was trying to beat the rap in Midian for braining a man in Egypt. And if it weren't for the honor of the thing, He'd just as soon let Aaron go back and face the music. Who could have predicted that God would choose the prophets who were a ragged lot, mad as hatters, most of 'em."
~Frederick Bookner

"The exception seems to be the rule. The first humans God created went out and did the only thing God asked 'em not to do. The man he chose to head a new nation known as God's people tried to pawn off his wife on an unsuspecting Pharaoh; and the wife, herself, when told at the ripe old age of 91 that God was ready to deliver the son He had promised her, broke into rasping laughter in the face of God. Rahab, a harlot, became revered for her great faith; and Solomon, the wisest man who ever lived, went out of his way to break every proverb he so astutely composed...

Even after Jesus, the pattern continued. The two disciples who did the most to spread the Word after His departure, John and Peter, were the two He had rebuked most often for petty squabbling and muddleheadedness. And the Apostle Paul, who wrote more books than any other Bible writer, was selected for the task while kicking up dust whirls from town to town sniffing out Christians to torture. Jesus had nerve in trusting the high-minded ideals of love and unity and fellowship to this group. No wonder cynics have looked at the church and sighed, "If that group of people is supposed to represent God, I'll quickly vote against Him."
~ Paul Brand

So Jesus Christ pulls out all the stops
again and again and
puts everything to a halt
to deal with anybody
right where they are coming from
if they but let go of everything else
and grasp hold of him alone.

Do we,
and if not yet...
when will we?

We should again ask our selfs what the Empress is referring to as "the one"...
then look atr those texts again...
and it is not her as has been assumed.

Other than humor,there is much more to Timmy's post there, as Bob has pointed out...
(...if one just "reads between the lines" further.)

i may have said too much already.

Anyway, there will be no more chances taken of possibly getting caught in the light of day.

I now have 12 rolls of duct tape to completely cover my coffin, avoiding both the further possibility of it falling apart, and any more accidental light leaks. It is just that it has been such an exhausting day first making my way to the basement cellar in broad daylight, and then this constant reminder by the clicking of a literally bony finger on the keyboard...i am just going to go hang it up for the night.

I did install 3 doorlock latches on the inside, and i do at least feel assured enough to, without any qualms, go hang upside down in my closet.

So until tomorrow after dark,
pleasant dreams to you.

Smiles all the whiles bro!
Timmy

p.s. i just forgot what i was going to write here so until i do recall what that was the p.s. section will not have anything significant to say, except that i did forget what i was going to write right here.

oH, I RECALL.

There is a thin veneer between the dream and the reality; but, don't wake anyone up or they'll be demanding their money back.

[Lotus Feet]

Micah 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
5 For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.


I have not seen any of this happening. The teaching and the law is not coming from Zion in this present day. The finality of this period is the eternal kingdom state/condition that will apply. Jesus has got to bring this about and nations will be taught and if they object they will be made to conform.

I have not seen the period where the metals of weapons used in warfare have been turned back to implements used for peaceful means. There was a token reduction of some nuclear weapons some years ago, but Russia and America still have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth several times over and they still have numerous tanks, battleships, planes and the like that can be scrapped (if they are not destroyed in battle) and the metals converted to peaceful uses.

David

Zion is a celestial reality, also the prophecies about daughter ZION are not in chronological order in Micah 4. Daughter ZION has been threshing belief systems that are unhealthy for humanity for a long time. There is also an overlap between Rev 12 and Micah 4. Rev 12 was completed in December 2008.

Micah 4 also mentions daughter ZION's mission to babylon, she was sent to the USA in 2008 to warn them about Obama.

The LORD God does not plan to build New Jerusalem in Israel, plus his new holy city of enlightenment will not have any places of worship. The plans for the new holy city have been given, the colors, the design, he has chosen the exact mountain and gave the name of the location three times.

Israel have been warned that if they build another temple it will fall back down on their heads like the other two did.

[Lotus Feet]

[COLOR="#008080"]When the veils drop there are all kinds of signs and wonders all seemingly pointing toward you. And in a way they are. It is easy to misinterpret those signs for the very fact that no one else seems to be aware of what you are aware of. I don't doubt that she was seeing some deeper aspects of Reality. Only that she was misinterpreting what she was seeing.

When Jesus Christ stands in front of you and speaks to you there is no misinterpreting what you are seeing. Also when he speaks to you, he speaks clearly. Bob May you take it upon yourself to make a judgement about a person that you know absolutely nothing about. You know nothing about my background, my history, my professional life, my career, my divine life, or my spiritual journey home to the LORD God. You do not know how I trained others spiritually, in both healing and in other modalities and disciplines. You have not seen my references, met any of my colleagues, international contacts, students, practitioners or masters that I trained. You have not read or listened to any of my published works either.
Yet, you have the audacity to speak about me in the way that you do. You seriously do not know who you are dealing with.

Teshuvah Bob May

It was not until years later that I put it together. I was reading the bible and the line "Out of Egypt have I called my son." That entire area of Southern IL is known as "Little Egypt."That was a sign for me. Sometimes the bible reaches out and touches you personally.

Being called out of Egypt is being called out of the captivity, the same for Abraham was also called out of the captivity that he was in. Did you leave captivity Bob? Clearly not.

But did that sign mean that I am the Son of God? No, but I do believe it was telling me I am A son of God.

No the sign did not tell you that at all Bob.

Were you born again a holy Spirit Bob?

Jesus told you clearly, that you must be born again of the Spirit. You walk in the way of man Bob, not in the way of the Spirit. That is why you were being called out of Egypt. Being born again has nothing to do with baptism either. Only those that have truly experienced it understand it. Being born again doesn't happen until a person has ascending the tree of life. One cannot plan it because it is not for an individual to decide when it will happen. Only the LORD God can decide when the person is ready to be a Son by his side.

Being able to see the difference is Lotus' problem.

The problem is yours Bob seek within for it.

[TheForgiven]

Jesus told you clearly, that you must be born again of the Spirit. You walk in the way of man Bob, not in the way of the Spirit. That is why you were being called out of Egypt. Being born again has nothing to do with baptism either. Only those that have truly experienced it understand it. Being born again doesn't happen until a person has ascending the tree of life. One cannot plan it because it is not for an individual to decide when it will happen. Only the LORD God can decide when the person is ready to be a Son by his side.

This is an error. Being born "from above", being the literal translation is made possible when you are baptized. Baptism is not just a physical act of faith in being buried and resurrected; it IS a burial and a resurrection. When a person is immersed into water, he symbolically shows that his past life has been buried, having been buried with Christ, in the name of Jesus, for the remission of all sins, that after having been raised, he is raised again to live a new life by the Spirit that enabled his resurrection. How is a person raised? By the Spirit. Thus, Baptism is a burial after death on the cross, and a resurrection by the Spirit; they are one and the same.

Protestants have confused this issue ever since they're beginning. For some reason, they believe that the Spirit and Baptism are two separate things, when they are not. More importantly, the early church practiced Baptism, and has continued since their day, to practice baptism. It was John Calvin, a brutal child beating man, who somehow confused all acts of faith as non-essential of salvation. But St. James had the same kinds of dealings with a type of "faith only" cults even in his day. James shows that faith and works go hand-in-hand; you cannot divide them. There's no such thing as faith without expression.

Being born of water and Spirit are all part of Baptism. Now we know in the book of Acts that Peter, while he was preaching to Gentiles after his vision of unclean animals, saw the Spirit descend upon the Gentiles and they began speaking in different tongues, prior to being baptised AND without Peter having to lay-hands on them; they received the Holy Spirt of power just as they (Apotles) did on the day of Pentecost (this is key and is often missed by Protestants). This was necessary to show Peter that God has accepted the Gentiles for salvation. It was also a lesson for James and the rest who rebuked Peter for delivering the Good News to a family of Gentiles. And so God poured His Spirit of power to show the Jews that He has chosen the Gentiles to share in the same faith, and all without having to practice and observe the works of the law (circumcision, fasting, new moons, etc.).

Now water in itself is nothing; it may remove dirt from our body, but as Peter explains in his Epistle, Baptism does not save us because of dirt’s removal; it saves us from sins removal (in Jesus name/Acts 2:38) and clearing our conscious before the Lord. But Baptism without faith is meaningless, as it is an act of faith. Paul explains in Colossians 2 that baptism comes from our faith and belief in the resurrection. Romans 10:9-10 shows that a Christian (not the unsaved) lives and walks by faith in the resurrection, and the faith of our confessed belief that He is the Son of God. (Note: Romans 10:9-10 is not a verse for the unsaved; it is a verse for the SAVED; another Protestant confusion). Paul was writing to Jews and Romans in the Church that a Christian does not have to have someone explain the Laws of God to them, nor did they need anyone to reveal the Laws of God, as Moses had to do with the 10 commandments. Romans 10:9-10 was a reality of a Christian's faith, that the Laws of God are written in our hearts, and not on stone. Thus, those who live and walk by faith, do not need anyone to declare God's law to them; it lives within them, through His Spirit, by faith of those who profess the name of Jesus, and who also believe that He was raised. For with the mouth we confuess, and with our hearts we believe, and are thus saved, and being saved. Protestants have confused this verse as though this were an instruction for saving the lost.

Protestants are so confused that it's no wonder why their divisions are so many. They rely on self-understanding, and blind faith, and thus contribute to their ever growing division, separation, scriptural manipulation, and hypocrisy. Sometimes I believe the TBN networks would fare better if they were taken off the air. All they're doing is breading more death.

Joseph