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    the ten horns

    Could this be the last days ten horned (ten persons based in ten world regions) kingdom of Daniel 2, 7, Revelation 12, 13 and 17?

    This is something that might be worth watching closely as it develops.
    http://en.unpacampaign.org/news/354.php
    11 March 2009


    New research programme on global democracy established
    A global research programme facilitated and coordinated through a convening group of ten persons based in ten world regions was established last year with core funding from the Ford Foundation. The programme's new website was now launched. The BGD Programme brings together academic researchers, civil society activists, entrepreneurs, journalists and officials to "explore how ‘rule by and for the people’ can be understood and practiced in relation to global issues". One of the programme's lead questions is how affected people can participate in and control the governance of global concerns. BGD's administrative office is located in the Centre for the Study of Globalisation and Regionalisation at the University of Warwick in the United Kingdom. In November 2008 findings of the programme's pilot project on Civil Society and Accountable Global Governance were presented at the United Nations in New York (in the picture, taken by Durlabh S. Maharishi).

    The programme is organised around five main projects which address (1) Conceptualising Global Democracy, (2) Citizen Learning for Global Democracy, (3) Including the Excluded in Global Policymaking, (4) Structural Redistribution for Global Democracy and (5) Intercultural Constructions of Global Democracy. "In the course of its research, the programme is also likely to touch upon the creation of a global parliamentary assembly," said the programme's convener for Western Europe, Jan Aart Scholte with University of Warwick. The inaugural meeting of the convening group was held in April 2008. To learn more about the programme and the presentations at the UN, visit programme’s website www.buildingglobaldemocracy.org.

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    Good thought gilgal, and certainly worth watching closely as it develops. But the 10 horns to me seems to be the Western European Union because it comprises of 10 European countries. These 10 European countries are also members of the 27 (?10 horns + 7 heads + 10 crowns of the Beast that rise out of the sea of Revelation 12) countries of EU (EU flag consists of 12 stars arranged in a crown). Its flag consists of 10 stars arranged in such a way that it looks like a U-shaped horn. Who knows one day the WEU which is a Western European defence group will also adopt other
    projects as well.



    http://www.nato.int/docu/handbook/2001/hb1504.htm

    "The Western European Union has existed since 1954 and today includes 10 European countries Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom. It has a Council and Secretariat formerly located in London and based in Brussels since January 1993, and a Parliamentary Assembly in Paris. The WEU has its origins in the Brussels Treaty of Economic, Social and Cultural Collaboration and Collective Self-Defence of 1948, signed by Belgium, France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom".

    For a reference of the EU flag:



    "The European Union (EU) is an economic and political union of 27 member states, located primarily in Europe".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheow Wee Hock View Post
    Good thought gilgal, and certainly worth watching closely as it develops. But the 10 horns to me seems to be the Western European Union because it comprises of 10 European countries. These 10 European countries are also members of the 27 (?10 horns + 7 heads + 10 crowns of the Beast that rise out of the sea of Revelation 12) countries of EU (EU flag consists of 12 stars arranged in a crown). Its flag consists of 10 stars arranged in such a way that it looks like a U-shaped horn. Who knows one day the WEU which is a Western European defence group will also adopt other
    projects as well.



    http://www.nato.int/docu/handbook/2001/hb1504.htm

    "The Western European Union has existed since 1954 and today includes 10 European countries Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom. It has a Council and Secretariat formerly located in London and based in Brussels since January 1993, and a Parliamentary Assembly in Paris. The WEU has its origins in the Brussels Treaty of Economic, Social and Cultural Collaboration and Collective Self-Defence of 1948, signed by Belgium, France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom".

    For a reference of the EU flag:



    "The European Union (EU) is an economic and political union of 27 member states, located primarily in Europe".

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    It's the first time I see the flag above. So the Western EU are the 1st group of 10?

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    NATO and WEU

    Hi gigal,

    The 10 horns are the 10 leaders of the 10 nations that formed the WEU. They are not the 10 successive leaders of the WEU.

    Things are getting exciting, there are debates about the NATO joining the WEU. If this is successful, that will mean that the US, Canada, Albania, Croatia, Iceland, Norway, Turkey will join WEU as a defence bloc. It will be the world's most powerful defence bloc....."Who can fight against the Beast?". NATO consists of 28 nations including all the countries of the WEU and many countries of the EU. NATO joining WEU will be then be the Beast that rise up fro the sea.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO

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    Eureka!

    Hi gilgal,

    I figure it is easier to find the identity of the 1st Beast i.e. the Beast in Revelation 13 that rise out from the sea with 10 horns, 7 heads and 10 crowns rather than just focussing on the 10 horns. This is because the clues are more. I have almost solve the issue and I will be coming out with the interpretations soon after I have organize it. Horns on animals are used for defence and attack, Horns in ancient times were used in joyous celebrations. But let's find out what horn means in the bible:

    Attack and defence
    Deuteronomy 33:17
In majesty he is like a firstborn bull; his horns are the horns of a wild ox. With them he will gore the nations, even those at the ends of the earth. Such are the ten thousands of Ephraim; such are the thousands of Manasseh."

    Protector
    2 Samuel 22:3
my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior— from violent men you save me.

    Joyous celebration
    Chronicles 15:14
They took an oath to the LORD with loud acclamation, with shouting and with trumpets and horns.


    Kingdoms
    Daniel 8:8
The goat became very great, but at the height of his power his large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven.

    King/Kings
    Daniel 8:21
The shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes is the first king.

    Revelation 17:12
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast.

    Lord
    Luke 1:69
He has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David.

    Horn therefore means a king or kingdom or lord that attacks, defends and protects and celebrates in victory. The 10 horns of the Beast mean the 10 kings/kingdoms that help the Beast in attacks, defence and protection. They will celebrate together with the Beast in victory and in whatever joyous events.

    Wait for my next post....you may shout eureka!

    Many Blessings.

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    Thanks for the info. Yes I find that horn would mean whatever is associated to the horn like offense/defense, victory being used as a trumpet...

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