# Thread: A Symmetrical Pattern in Jewish History

1. Originally Posted by Raphael
whatever...I am not interested in everything he says. If he makes a mistake on his income tax do I toss out everything else he does in life?
His error was not a simple mistake in arithmatic. His assertion of three dimensions of time based on different units is utterly absurd and reveals a fundamental inability to reason. It is more than enough reaon to reject him as a source for anything.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I posted the image for your benefit.
To show how simple the blueprint is.

2 circles
1 square with a base 440 x 440
calculate pi
speed of light in metres/sec
Yes, and I appreciate that. The image helped make the idea clear. But it's just a another random factoid that carries no meaningful implications as far as I can tell. Folks are obsessed with the pyramid as if it were a kind of "authoritative Scritpure" from which the secrets of the universe can be divined. For example, they convert the angle of 51 degrees 52 minutes into seconds to get a number close to the speed of light in miles per second. Does that mean I should believe that the builders of the pyramid encoded the speed of light in both meters and miles into the pyramid? I think not. That would be believable only if they wrote a message in words telling us that's what they intended. Then it would be the greatest find in the history of the world rather than just another random factoid.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Did you check out the second video...Revelations of the Pyramids?
Much better far more entertaining.
I don't find irrational baseless claims to be entertaining.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Do you have proof Egyptians used pi = 22/7 or pi = 3.141 blah blah?

note 22/7= 3 1/7 = 317 or 713 or 137?

How many letters in the Torah?
Can we use the numbers 713 to figure it out?

7 = 3 + 4
13 = 5 + 8

How many letters in the Torah?

304,508
Post hoc pattern finding is utterly meaningless. And besides, different versions of the Torah have different numbers of letters.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I don't think it matters what you call the units or how you define them.
Then you don't understand the meaning of units or why they are significant. Any number can be associated with any measurement using different units.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I think what is important here is the number '44', in figuring out the DIFFERENCE of those two circles separated by a square and arriving at the figures posted.

Yesterday was April 4th, i.e. 4/4 and by coincidence you missed that point.
I've long been partial to the number 44 since I had the Dumbo dream in which a woman said said "Are you looking for Dumbo? 12 x 44." The product is 528 = KEY (maphte'ach) in Hebrew, as in Isaiah 22:22.

Originally Posted by Raphael
the dEvIL is in the dEtaIL and if you flip St. Peter or LEvI priest on his head they see I^37?

LEvI = I^37 (rotated 180 degrees out-of-phase wave)

LEvI priests would need to know about I37, the fine structure constant has not changed in the past 5000 years has it?

Maybe that is why they gave their 'science', their 'theory of everything' a value of 137?
How is it that you don't realize that kind of number/letter manipulation would never lead to any real knowledge, and would never be convincing to any serious thinker?

Originally Posted by Raphael
Hey Richard I am trying to lead you to an AHA.
I appreciate that. But you will need to be a little more rigorous in your logic or I won't be able to follow. I really am allergic to random number/letter games. They mean nothing to me. When you look at the work I have done you will see how careful and rigorous I was. That's the only thing that would convince me because I have seen mountains of malarky built on the shifting sands of random connections.

Originally Posted by Raphael
What 3 constants make up the fine structure constant 1/137?

e^2 is one of them, along with the speed of light and plancks constant.

Your AHA arrives when you make the connection between e^2 and the pairs of animals entering the ARK which was 137 meters long.

Your AHA arrives when you realize we can write 137 on Jesus the son of god and position him between the TWO THIEVES, the TWO POLARITIES, the TWO SPECTRAL LINES of a hydrogen atom!

Or maybe Jachin and Boaz?
Or on the time between a pair of farts? How is it that you speak of Jesus as the son of God when you reject the concept of a theistic God?

Why would anyone with any rationality make a connection between the fine structure of hydrogen spectra and the mythological story of the ark with pairs of animals?

Originally Posted by Raphael
Did you know according to Coptic Mysticism that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit = 713 x 9?

namaste
No, I didn't know anything about that. But why would you care? You don't believe in Coptic Christianity, or any form of Christianity as far as I can tell.

All the best,

Richard

2. Originally Posted by Raphael

An elementary school kid could round off ALL of the those numbers to the correct answer >>> 440.
You are correct, of course. I asked that question before researching the dimensions of the pyramid.

Originally Posted by Raphael
44 is what we are shooting for here to complete our speed of light calculations in meters per second.
But the calculation is meaningless. There is no motivation to compare the difference between the two circles or to think that the difference would relate to the speed of light in meters per second. With no standards of any kind, we could find numbers like that in anything we look at. It's meaningless.

And worse, if folks followed the kind of logic you suggest, we never would have had any real science, and we never would have discovered the speed of light in the first place!

Originally Posted by Raphael

Interesting that metric was established in 1793.
This is the problem with your "methodology." It's just a massive collection of random factoids. It is as different from a disciplined science as anything could be.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Considering the ancients used 22/7 for pi calculations, EXACT answers as requested by you are not required.
Goody! More wiggle-room for random associations.

Originally Posted by Raphael
1793 contains the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit formula too.

1793 >> 713 x 9
But the concept of the Trinity is a Christian concept about the nature of the Christian God that was developed to harmonize Christian Scriptures. As far as I know, you reject all of that, so how can you find any "meaning" in those numbers?

Originally Posted by Raphael
Where else do we find those numbers 1379?
What other significant coincidences did I find re: 1379?

namaste
Who cares? You are just randomly collecting random associations from an infinite sea of letters, numbers, and historical events. It seems to me to be utterly meaningless.

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Originally Posted by RAM

But the concept of the Trinity is a Christian concept about the nature of the Christian God that was developed to harmonize Christian Scriptures. As far as I know, you reject all of that, so how can you find any "meaning" in those numbers?
I do not reject 'all of that'.
As a matter of fact as I have pointed out CARD X 11 8 2 5 of the Tarot is depicting the Birth of Christ a.k.a. Matthew 1:18-25 and I want to add it is clear that if we add the Masonic cipher (3) for the 72 names of god to the center of CARD X we end up an algorithm that nature employs.

11, 2, 5, 8 becomes 1, 1, 2, (3) 5, 8 = Fibonacci one of nature's primary algorithms. i.e. phi

So CARD X, the picture worth 10,000 words suggests two profound overriding concepts are connected to Jesus.
Precession of the Equinoxes and Fibonacci or phi AHA!
And guess what Richard we have proof that 11, 2, 5, 8, is connected to 4 constellations that form a phi spiral when plotted in the heavens.

proof of all I say scroll down the link until you see this image.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...4-royal-stars/

Everything that you offer regarding Christianity can be found in some shape or form elsewhere Richard.
Do you think the Trinity, which is not mentioned in the bible is unique?
Can we not find a trinity hierarchy in other beliefs?
Why do you bother with these same ole' BS arguments, like Christianity is unique and the best narrative to buy into?
Because I am not, it is a copy cat of ALL the archetypes that have come before.

Archetypes = patterns = geometry = narratives that are rebleated by the herd

Because truth is truth is truth and there is no religion higher than the truth.

And I might add that billions of other folks could not care less about the Christian trinity, because they have their own super duper 3 like Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu, or Buddha, Confucius, Lao Tse, etc.etc.

And science has a trinity of constants that make up the fine structure constant too. I find that interesting.
And what confuses physicists about the 3 constants that make up 1/137 is that they become dimensionless when mixed together in that formula.
In other words it does not matter what the units are that you use to 'identify' them with, any where in the universe, you will still get the dimensionless '137'.
And that is a science factoid.
This is one of the reasons we should worry about 137 - Richard Feynman

Originally Posted by RAM
Who cares? You are just randomly collecting random associations from an infinite sea of letters, numbers, and historical events. It seems to me to be utterly meaningless.
dude I am confused or have I just been conned by your new game?

I thought you were done as a righteous christian?
It seems your resurrection allows you to use both science and religion with equal veracity?

IF you believe in god, there are NO coincidences, everything, I mean everything is just more EVIDENCE of that underlying unity, including my IMAGINATION that we fail to comprehend using our limited skill set..
GOD is everything including my thoughts that I am trying to share with you?
refute that.

So you can call my methods of seeking out the truth BS, and I could do the same with your methods, and cha cha cha till the end of time.

Bottom line is, I seem to SEE, HEAR and FEEL the cosmic clues more than most these daze, I sense a unity/harmony between all hemispheres of the earth and between all beliefs more than most folks do because of the methods I employ.

Richard I always find it funny how folks who preach about a god are quick to toss out anything that falls OUTSIDE their accepted narrative...that is kinda hypocritical.
That any human can anoint themselves judge/jury/executioner using a very limited sensory skill set that not long ago tossed out 95% of DNA calling it junk, and lets face it Richard IF folks with scopes had not told you and me about dark matter we would still be in the dark about dark matter and dark energy.
Einstein was in the dark about dark matter and dark energy and he also did NOT know that the 4 forces were asymmetrical like 3+1!

I can safely say I know important things about the universe Einstein did NOT know.

Originally Posted by RAM
I've long been partial to the number 44 since I had the Dumbo dream in which a woman said said "Are you looking for Dumbo? 12 x 44." The product is 528 = KEY (maphte'ach) in Hebrew, as in Isaiah 22:22.
I also have long been partial to KEY 528 after first reading about it in one of Bonnie Gaunt's book.

Here is another coincidence....RaphaEL the archangEL who knows about angLEs was born at 5:28 am.

And if you google do a search using just the terms 'KEY 528', guess what?
Your site is #1 followed by six (6) entries of mine.

But Richard IF you add the search term DNA to KEY 528, guess what?
Your site no longer shows up on front page.
But my blogs dominate the IDEA that DNA KEY 528 are associated!

And I am glad you brought up 528.
What Tarot sources do you use to support your gibberish?
Two of mine, of many, I use to support my gibberish are Papus and C.C. Zain.
In both of these Tarot sources you will find an image of a KEY.
(Postel offers a third image of a key...)

And what you did not know about the KEY 528 is that there is actually a KEY that highlights the 528, only the teeth are not in that order.

So can you figure out which of these two KEYS is found in the Tarot book, and which would you find in a chemistry book describing DNA?

This KEY's tEEth highlights the LION 5, EAGLE 8, and the BULL 2
And if you ever do visit this link that I keep posting for your benefit, have a look around ... many AHA to be found.
http://at37.wordpress.com/2012/02/23...astikas-seeds/

Btw the basic structure of my bullseye 4 AGES modEL looks very much like yours and so many others.
It is a Wheel with 3 levels or concentric rings.
It is NOT so unique as I found out.

The earliest bible wheel modEL I have managed to find goes back to about 5000 BCE.
And to bring the 7000 year old modEL that clearly shows three levels plus a center, up to the 21st ideal, I can use the wisdom of Ed Witten to explain why only 3 levels might be necessary. It was a nice find that confirmed my modEL.

Your bible wheel is based on 66 or 22, 22, 22.
My model has 22 on the first level, 26 on the second, 30 on the third for a total of 78.

1 4 7 10 = 22
2 5 8 11 = 26 = YHVH
3 6 9 12 = 30

A total that resembles the Tarot and surpasses the New and Old compilation by 12.
Hey maybe another *New Improved* testament needs to be added?
It would make sense, just like the New Testament added to the Old Testament around 2000 years ago, maybe another 12 chapters needs to be added during this Age of Aquarius?

12 science chapters to go along with all of that NEW and OLD bIbLE babel?
What if the sin-thesis is not quite done yet?
History suggests I AM correct and a static bIbLE is in peril.

What 12 are missing?
Here is a clue.

FACT lost on the herd who text message mundane and profane idiocy all day long:
Richard imagine everybody has been given a cEL-PHOne to do business with the money lenders and animal traders.

What I like about my 3x4 = 12 grid is it puts my idea on the same page as the 3x4 = 12 Breastplate of the High Priest and as the 3x4 = 12 grid we see above on the left attributed to the angel RazIZL who gave Adam and Eve the book of secrets in Eden.

Richard it is obvious that a potential theory of everything would need to be able to reconcile religion and science too, and that will not happen until science gets a grip on how the two hemispheres of the mind operates in conjunction with the heart and its environment.

Richard can your religion provide me proof of Adam, i.e. do you have a picture?
Richard can your science provide me proof of the Atom, i.e. do you have a picture of an atom to prove your science is true blue?

You were demanding I provide you with a theory of everything, that included electro-magnetism and gravity, can you give me a modEL for one measly atom please.

amen

namaste

RaphaEL
Last edited by Raphael; 04-05-2012 at 11:59 AM.

4. Originally Posted by Raphael
But the concept of the Trinity is a Christian concept about the nature of the Christian God that was developed to harmonize Christian Scriptures. As far as I know, you reject all of that, so how can you find any "meaning" in those numbers?
I do not reject 'all of that'.
When you reject theism, how can it be that you don't reject "all of that?" It would really help if you could state what you actually believe about the Bible, it's God, and Christ. As it is, it seems like you are using all the words but denying all the meaning. I trust you can see why I find this confusing.

Originally Posted by Raphael
As a matter of fact as I have pointed out CARD X 11 8 2 5 of the Tarot is depicting the Birth of Christ a.k.a. Matthew 1:18-25 and I want to add it is clear that if we add the Masonic cipher (3) for the 72 names of god to the center of CARD X we end up an algorithm that nature employs.

11, 2, 5, 8 becomes 1, 1, 2, (3) 5, 8 = Fibonacci one of nature's primary algorithms. i.e. phi

So CARD X, the picture worth 10,000 words suggests two profound overriding concepts are connected to Jesus.
Precession of the Equinoxes and Fibonacci or phi AHA!
And guess what Richard we have proof that 11, 2, 5, 8, is connected to 4 constellations that form a phi spiral when plotted in the heavens.
It all looks like random associations to me. Why Matthew 1:18-25 and not Genesis 1:18-25 or some other book? I am utterly unable to discern any PRINCIPLES in your study, and I have no reason to believe a unprincipled collection of facts drawn from an infinite ocean. It's like drawing patterns in the stars - you can draw whatever you want, but would there be any meaning?

Originally Posted by Raphael
proof of all I say scroll down the link until you see this image.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/200...4-royal-stars/
We apparently have different concepts of what constitutes "proof."

Originally Posted by Raphael
Everything that you offer regarding Christianity can be found in some shape or form elsewhere Richard.
Do you think the Trinity, which is not mentioned in the bible is unique?
Can we not find a trinity hierarchy in other beliefs?
Yes, the specific doctrine of the Trinity that was devised to answer the verses in the Bible is unique. I've never seen anything like they hypostatic union outside of Christianity.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Why do you bother with these same ole' BS arguments, like Christianity is unique and the best narrative to buy into?
Because I am not, it is a copy cat of ALL the archetypes that have come before.
I don't. You are the one who is constantly referring to the Biblical terminology as if it meant something, but you never actually defined what you mean by those words and you have denied what they mean to Christians. So it looks like confusion to me.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Archetypes = patterns = geometry = narratives that are rebleated by the herd
That's cool - I can relate to all that. But if you are going to import Biblical terminology, you will need to define it so folks don't CONFUSE it with the traditional meanings.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Because truth is truth is truth and there is no religion higher than the truth.
And tautologies are tautological!

Originally Posted by Raphael
And I might add that billions of other folks could not care less about the Christian trinity, because they have their own super duper 3 like Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu, or Buddha, Confucius, Lao Tse, etc.etc.
I'm familiar with the Hindu trinity, but I doubt Lao Tse with is Tao, Duality, and Ten Thousand things captures the same concept.

It seems you are often taken in by meaningless supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs.

Originally Posted by Raphael
And science has a trinity of constants that make up the fine structure constant too. I find that interesting.
And what confuses physicists about the 3 constants that make up 1/137 is that they become dimensionless when mixed together in that formula.
In other words it does not matter what the units are that you use to 'identify' them with, any where in the universe, you will still get the dimensionless '137'.
And that is a science factoid.
The fact that those constants combine to give a dimensionless constant is indeed profound. But your comment indicates a fundamental failure to understand my criticism of deriving the length of a cubit in meters from the dimensionless numbers pi and phi.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Who cares? You are just randomly collecting random associations from an infinite sea of letters, numbers, and historical events. It seems to me to be utterly meaningless.
dude I am confused or have I just been conned by your new game?

I thought you were done as a righteous christian?
It seems your resurrection allows you to use both science and religion with equal veracity?

IF you believe in god, there are NO coincidences, everything, I mean everything is just more EVIDENCE of that underlying unity, including my IMAGINATION that we fail to comprehend using our limited skill set..
GOD is everything including my thoughts that I am trying to share with you?
refute that.

So you can call my methods of seeking out the truth BS, and I could do the same with your methods, and cha cha cha till the end of time.

Bottom line is, I seem to SEE, HEAR and FEEL the cosmic clues more than most these daze, I sense a unity/harmony between all hemispheres of the earth and between all beliefs more than most folks do because of the methods I employ.
Oh yes, I am "done as a righteous christian" but it may take a long time to purge myself of the "attitude" that you don't like. Or maybe I shouldn't purge myself of my anti-bullshit rage. The world is full of bullshit, and you are making outrageous claims that don't really match the meanings of the words you are using. So I simply speak what I see as best I can. You find it frustrating because your collection of factoids lack coherence.

I don't understand what you mean by "use both science and religion with equal veracity." Religion is made up crap by people who don't know shit, science is based on logic and facts. Do you really think they are in any way "equal?"

I am inclined towards the belief that all is UNITY but collections of random factoids from an infinite ocean of possibilities proves nothing. At least no to me.

I understand your mystical sense of reality. I think it's great. But your attempt to "prove it" with all these factoids fails miserably in my estimation.

Your assertion that you have reason to reject my "methods" as I do yours is the definition of absurdity. You have no "methods" other than superficial similarities and gathering of random facts without any overriding principles guiding your theory. There is a world of difference between what you are doing and real science. And COME ON MAN! You can't not know this! Nothing you write is anything like a science or mathematics textbook.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Richard I always find it funny how folks who preach about a god are quick to toss out anything that falls OUTSIDE their accepted narrative...that is kinda hypocritical.
That's not me. I don't preach god no more.

And I am open to anything that can be established with logic and facts, and I'm even open to mystical intuitions. But you are mixing it all together in a way that is totally idiosyncratic and fruitless because you have no principles, no foundation. You have presented nothing for me to believe even if I wanted to! It's like you are posting your private dream journal. It is opaque to everyone but you.

Originally Posted by Raphael
That any human can anoint themselves judge/jury/executioner using a very limited sensory skill set that not long ago tossed out 95% of DNA calling it junk, and lets face it Richard IF folks with scopes had not told you and me about dark matter we would still be in the dark about dark matter and dark energy.
Of course - and for that matter, there may not be any such thing! There may be some other explanation for the deviation from the mathematical predictions. And that brings up the fundamental problem with your entire body of assertions. It contains NO PREDICTIONS. It is entirely untestable. It's all post-hoc pattern finding which seems mostly vain to me. If the facts were different, you'd just make up a different story or ignore them. It's nothing like science that makes theories to explain and predict observations. But you write like it is science. That's what makes it pseudo-science.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I can safely say I know important things about the universe Einstein did NOT know.
And you don't know much that he knew. So what's the point?

Originally Posted by Raphael
I've long been partial to the number 44 since I had the Dumbo dream in which a woman said said "Are you looking for Dumbo? 12 x 44." The product is 528 = KEY (maphte'ach) in Hebrew, as in Isaiah 22:22.
I also have long been partial to KEY 528 after first reading about it in one of Bonnie Gaunt's book.
Bonnie's books were monuments to bullshit. They are filled with errors from beginning to end.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Here is another coincidence....RaphaEL the archangEL who knows about angLEs was born at 5:28 am.
Nice birth-time.

Why ruin it with more random emphasis upon the meaningless occurrence of the letters "EL"?

Originally Posted by Raphael
And if you google do a search using just the terms 'KEY 528', guess what?
Your site is #1 followed by six (6) entries of mine.
Not surprising!

Originally Posted by Raphael
But Richard IF you add the search term DNA to KEY 528, guess what?
Your site no longer shows up on front page.
But my blogs dominate the IDEA that DNA KEY 528 are associated!
Oh .. that breaks my heart.

Originally Posted by Raphael
And I am glad you brought up 528.
What Tarot sources do you use to support your gibberish?
Two of mine, of many, I use to support my gibberish are Papus and C.C. Zain.
In both of these Tarot sources you will find an image of a KEY.
(Postel offers a third image of a key...)

And what you did not know about the KEY 528 is that there is actually a KEY that highlights the 528, only the teeth are not in that order.

This KEY's tEEth highlights the LION 5, EAGLE 8, and the BULL 2
And if you ever do visit this link that I keep posting for your benefit, have a look around ... many AHA to be found.
http://at37.wordpress.com/2012/02/23...astikas-seeds/
The KEY got it wrong! It doesn't follow the 3 + 1 pattern. The Lion, Bull, Man (Matt, Mark, Luke) are terrestrial, whereas the Eagle (John) flies.

Of course, I can see why they got it wrong. They probably thought that the Man was different than the other three which were animals. But that's a fundamental misunderstanding of the symbolism.

And as for your finding the 11 8 2 5 pattern everywehre - two words: selection bias.

Originally Posted by Raphael

Btw the basic structure of my bullseye 4 AGES modEL looks very much like yours and so many others.
It is a Wheel with 3 levels or concentric rings.
It is NOT so unique as I found out.
The concept of "so unique" is oxymoronic. Unique means one of a kind.

Originally Posted by Raphael
The earliest bible wheel modEL I have managed to find goes back to about 5000 BCE.
Your bible wheel is based on 66 or 22, 22, 22.
My model has 22 on the first level, 26 on the second, 30 on the third for a total of 78.

1 4 7 10 = 22
2 5 8 11 = 26 = YHVH
3 6 9 12 = 30

A total that resembles the Tarot and surpasses the New and Old compilation by 12.
Hey maybe another *New Improved* testament needs to be added?
The difference between your work and mine is that I didn't make up stuff and manipulate things to fit a pattern. I merely rolled up the Bible as it was received from history. That makes all the difference in the world. Any patterns that it reveals were not put there by me. You pattern was made up by you and so it reveals nothing but your own creativity.

Originally Posted by Raphael
It would make sense, just like the New Testament added to the Old Testament around 2000 years ago, maybe another 12 chapters needs to be added during this Age of Aquarius?
Sure you can make up whatever you want. But why then would you think it had any more significance than the free art made up by anyone else? It certainly does not rank on the level of DISCOVERY like the Bible Wheel.

Originally Posted by Raphael
12 science chapters to go along with all of that NEW and OLD bIbLE babel?
What if the sin-thesis is not quite done yet?
History suggests I AM correct and a static bIbLE is in peril.
How could your private inventions imperil the Bible? Who would change it to fit your ideas?

The bible is in peril for quite another reason. Or rather, the fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible, since it contains demonstrable error.

Originally Posted by Raphael
What 12 are missing?
Here is a clue.

Like I said - you appear to be obsessed with random superficial similarities fished out of the ocean of all possibilities.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Richard it is obvious that a potential theory of everything would need to be able to reconcile religion and science too, and that will not happen until science gets a grip on how the two hemispheres of the mind operates in conjunction with the heart and its environment.
Yes, and it would be as scientifically precise and principled as Quantum Physics. Your work is nothing like that, so it is absurd to call it a theory of everything.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Richard can your religion provide me proof of Adam, i.e. do you have a picture?
I don't have a religion and Adam is a myth. What are you babbling about?

Originally Posted by Raphael
Richard can your science provide me proof of the Atom, i.e. do you have a picture of an atom to prove your science is true blue?

You were demanding I provide you with a theory of everything, that included electro-magnetism and gravity, can you give me a modEL for one measly atom please.
It's already been done. Open any QM book.

All the best,

Richard

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Originally Posted by RAM
When you reject theism, how can it be that you don't reject "all of that?"
oh I forgot we are being recorded.
I can reject theism and still accept some of its ideas.
I can reject all BS beliefs and still accept some of it to be true, can't I?

do I need to take all the bait?

Originally Posted by RAM
It all looks like random associations to me. Why Matthew 1:18-25
Simple formula birth of cycle = 1:18-25 = CARD X is an algorithm called phi = 1, 1, 2, ?, 5, 8

Because like Jesus whose BIRTH is the beginning of a cycle, his birth is depicted in Matthew 1:18-25.
And it just so happens that Freemasonry traces its inception to the beginning of the Age of Taurus around 4000 BCE.

Makes sense to me, but I can understand why it would not make sense to somebody who used to be a bible babbler and appears to be still clinging to some stupid religious ideas mixed in with his new love for science. How many books written on Freemasonry do you own or more importantly have read?

Ever notice that many significant Semitic languages begin with a first letter that means ox.
IMHO around 4000 BCE is also when the self serving BS began.
Another coincidence, I think not.

Originally Posted by RAM
I am utterly unable to discern any PRINCIPLES in your study.
you probably think the zodiac and ancient astrology are bunk?
maybe this is why.
It is really simple when you dispense LITERAL bible nonsense and just adopt a new stance.

12 disciples are 12 signs of the zodiac

Is there any relationship between the 12 tribes, the 12 disciples, the 12 signs of the zodiac?

Originally Posted by RAM
you can draw whatever you want, but would there be any meaning?
I shall continue to hover around the 12,000+ year old good luck symbol known by many names, i.e. YHVH/tetragrammaton/swastika, along with the number 137 because Richard Feynman told me to worry about it (because I am a good theorist) and linking DNA to all of the above and what is to follow would be a smart move too.

Originally Posted by RAM

We apparently have different concepts of what constitutes "proof."
True, you seem to reject more evidence than I do, as a reformed Christian you have become quite the grim reaper.
Is a scythe asymmetrical?

Originally Posted by RAM
Yes, the specific doctrine of the Trinity that was devised to answer the verses in the Bible is unique. I've never seen anything like they hypostatic union outside of Christianity.
who cares, it is all just a BS theory remember?
Not to be taken literally....unless you add some figurative reckoning I reckon.
religion is not a science, though science has become a religion.

could you please give me an analogy using science for what a hypotatic union means to me, a potential non-believer, because the wiki definition made no sense to me, I need to believe in a literal Christ to get it.

Originally Posted by RAM
But if you are going to import Biblical terminology, you will need to define it so folks don't CONFUSE it with the traditional meanings.
ROFL
Which one?
I mean which tainted version with accompanying translation is peachy keen with you?
Stop it Richard you are cracking me up now.
After 2000 years have we managed to get religions to believe in the same thing?
But I need to come clean on the bible lingo that everybody agrees on?

I am still waiting for an answer for why YHVH got rubbed out of far too may bibles to the tune of over 6800 times?
Or do I need to spell it out using appropriate bible lingo?

Originally Posted by RAM
And tautologies are tautological!

...YES but didn't you know that the double turnstile notation = S is used to indicate that S is a tautology.
Have you ever noticed the swastika technology called a revolving door?

The swastika has you coming and going, and you are not even aware of it Richard, and that is yet another fact I can bank on with CHASE.

It is the symbol that has been vEILed in plain view my friend.
Because it is IMPOSSIBLE to HIDE nature, you can only vEIL it with BS narratives that defy and defILE nature.

That is so obvious, it is funny.

Originally Posted by RAM
I'm familiar with the Hindu trinity, but I doubt Lao Tse with is Tao, Duality, and Ten Thousand things captures the same concept.
Really what is the 10,000 things in the east.
Bet I can show a connection to the value of the swastika in the east = 10,000?
I would bet 10K that the swastika means 10,000 in some Asian countries.
Originally Posted by RAM

It seems you are often taken in by meaningless supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs.
I have proven my point time and again Richard, especially regarding the swastika.

ANYTHING JESUS can do, the SWASTIKA can do better, and in fact did for 10,000 years before the archetypal Jesus made his appearance.
I agree he is fake and made up.
So what does he really represent?

I personally think MOST narratives default to precession of the equinoxes.

re: ultimate MEME supremacy of the swastika
It is truly a symbol so powerful you would need to vEIL it with bible babel, the BIGGER the LIE the better, this is how it verks comrade.

Until you can provide me with any symbol that better represents all of the following because it can be shown the swastika is profoundly connected to these concepts.
i.e. SPACE TIME MOTION or the SUN, MOON, STARS or WRATHFUL acts of NATURE by YHVH or its geometric equal that makes energy more efficient or any other symbol that we can link to the Great Pyramid, like we can the swastika .... Richard at the end of the day, it is your beliefs that appear kinda questionable, and your science is constantly being HUMBLED by swastika technology....starting with simple techologies like a windmill ... now we have NANO LIGHT MILLS that can manipulate our DNA, and you say it is all worthy of being ignored and dissed for how much longer, for how much longer are the gifts of god/nature whatever going to be vEILed and used against us....?

Lordy Lordy YHWH swastika tetragrammaton Gott, please forgive the ignorant for using your technologies in vain.
They have no IDEA what they do in their ignorance, IMHO this is how the Christian and the Scienctist epitaph reads at the end of the daze dude.

Originally Posted by RAM
The world is full of bullshit, and you are making outrageous claims that don't really match the meanings of the words you are using.
So I simply speak what I see as best I can. You find it frustrating because your collection of factoids lack coherence.
I could bury you with factoids about the swastika.
And that is a fact that is not outrageous, just a fact of life these past 12,000+ years.
It would make a wonderful narrative.
Man, Plato's Atlantis, swastika, the woolly mammoth and woolly sheeple all co-existed about 10,000 BCE.
Jesus does not show up for 10,000 years....
And scientists do not migrate up from the pond scum for yet another 1500 years after that.

And the swastika is a non-issue?
ROFL

You just proved why another Hitler is always on the horizon dude.
Take a bow Richard.

I can prove they can push the same buttons again and again as long as attitudes like yours are in existence.
The same ole' swastika buttons using the same ole' propaganda campaigns.

Only now they can tweeter the twats to coalesce into a KONY 2012 BLACK WHITE RED MOB.

Here we have a brand new batch of ignorant numb and dumb humans who are clueless to the bigger corporate agenda.
http://at37.wordpress.com/2012/03/18...ack-white-red/

Originally Posted by RAM

science is based on logic and facts. Do you really think they are in any way "equal?"
I can show you 2 pictures I show people when I give lectures.
Everybody else can see it plain as day...

The blueprint for CERN was in the mind of man 400 years ago.
Clearly CERN is built using QaBaLaH and/or alchemy inspirations.

That is another factoid science cannot deal with.

Originally Posted by RAM
There is a world of difference between what you are doing and real science. And COME ON MAN! You can't not know this! Nothing you write is anything like a science or mathematics textbook.
Sure it is.
Just not the science books you read.

Originally Posted by RAM
That's not me. I don't preach god no more.
You preach a new brand of science that rejects more than it knows.

Originally Posted by RAM
And I am open to anything that can be established with logic and facts, and I'm even open to mystical intuitions.
After you are finished giving me YOUR sketch of what YOU think or feel an atom looks like, please draw a line in the sand between the visible and the invisible realms and show me where logic ends and the metaphysical begins?

Hundreds of years ago our LOGIC at that time could not accept how we live today.
In other words dude, science logic is like an anchor sometimes.
Just another science FAIL Richard, science forgets it is on a learning curve.

Originally Posted by RAM

But you are mixing it all together in a way that is totally idiosyncratic and fruitless because you have no principles, no foundation. You have presented nothing for me to believe even if I wanted to! It's like you are posting your private dream journal. It is opaque to everyone but you.
Eh?

Originally Posted by RAM
It contains NO PREDICTIONS. It is entirely untestable.
I was predicting that the Higgs boson would have SOUND signatures attached to it long before CERN started posting them.

God particle signal is simulated as sound
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10385675

Originally Posted by RAM

It's all post-hoc pattern finding which seems mostly vain to me. If the facts were different, you'd just make up a different story or ignore them. It's nothing like science that makes theories to explain and predict observations. But you write like it is science. That's what makes it pseudo-science.
CERN is based on what you would call psuedo science.
2 pictures is all I need to prove that.

Originally Posted by RAM
And you don't know much that he knew. So what's the point?
Yes but what separates me from Einstein is the fact he was IGNORANT about the 4 forces of physics being asymmetrical.
That is why he did not offer much for the last 25 years of his life.

Originally Posted by RAM

Bonnie's books were monuments to bullshit. They are filled with errors from beginning to end.
Was she wrong about the value of the word KEY = 528?
Was she wrong about having a fascination with 37?

Originally Posted by RAM
Nice birth-time.

Why ruin it with more random emphasis upon the meaningless occurrence of the letters "EL"?
Ruin it?
July 3, 1957 or 7319 - 57

That is just starters.
You can derive the numbers 11 2 5 8 out of my birthdate 3 july 1957 too.

And I was registered with the cosmos as 073190

And you probably did not see it Richard because you are blind to the obvious.
I have spoken about the 137-69 code for quite some time...on other forums...going back to last year.

In this image ONE calculation you cannot refute is the speed of light as posted.

299,792,458

I will never ever forget that number now because of YOU!
I would suggest the ignorant ignore the 299.

we are left with 792468

79 okay
24 = 6
58 = 13

79613 or 137-69

Originally Posted by RAM

It doesn't follow the 3 + 1 pattern. The Lion, Bull, Man (Matt, Mark, Luke) are terrestrial, whereas the Eagle (John) flies.

Did you notice that the MAN is on the Stem of the KEY?

The EAGLE 8 and MAN 11 can swap positions btw, it is a typical Golden Dawn suggestion.
And physics using clues from the Tarot might be able to explain why.

That is an elementary move dude.
Card 11 JUSTICE and Card 8 STRENGTH can swap positions!

Take a look at CARDS 2, 5, 8, and 11 of the Waite deck.
They all have pillars except Card 8....which remember was switched for CARD 11.

And 2 and 5 in the south fit nicely with the Female Pope Card 2 and the Pope/Hierophant Card 5
And maybe the next time they speak of Upper and Lower Egypt being unified maybe CARD X will ring a BELL?

Maybe, maybe not.

You never did share what TAROT book you call your bible?

Originally Posted by RAM
And as for your finding the 11 8 2 5 pattern everywehre - two words: selection bias.
ROFL sorry dude but you cannot claim to be JUDGE and JURY when you have NOT seen all the evidence.
Here is the evidence because clearly I was overwhelmed by the coincidences!
Here ya go.
9 pages of selection bias.
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewto...228&highlight=

Originally Posted by RAM
The difference between your work and mine is that I didn't make up stuff and manipulate things to fit a pattern. I merely rolled up the Bible as it was received from history.
ROFL

do you know what cabala/kabbala/qabalah means?

Do you know where the word QaBaLaH comes from?
The word Qibbel.

ROFL

Qibbel has the word bible in it.

ROFL

So what does a true mystic 'receive'?

ROFL

Information about the cosmic code 137 obviously.

Originally Posted by RAM
That makes all the difference in the world. Any patterns that it reveals were not put there by me. You pattern was made up by you and so it reveals nothing but your own creativity.
Yup 137 was put here by me.....

ROFL

Originally Posted by RAM
Sure you can make up whatever you want. But why then would you think it had any more significance than the free art made up by anyone else? It certainly does not rank on the level of DISCOVERY like the Bible Wheel.
Hey I have NO problem matching my ego to yours.

My linking the SATOR SQUARE (Solomons treasure?) to Roger Penrose/Ed Witten's Twistor String theory makes your bible wheel vortex look elementary and like true bible babel even supported by bible babel quotations.

Richard you offer the world a Bible Wheel site and then you dis the very foundation of what it is based on, the Bible?
How does that make you a winner?

Are you claiming your Bible Wheel Vortex reconciles religion and science?

Originally Posted by RAM
The bible is in peril for quite another reason. Or rather, the fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible, since it contains demonstrable error.

Like I said - you appear to be obsessed with random superficial similarities fished out of the ocean of all possibilities.
Oh I forgot to mention I am starting up a tour company too post 2012 idiocy.
We visit Judaeo/Christian sites and start digging around for evidence of pagan swastika cultures buried under bible babel.
Can I advertise on your site to take bIbLE truth seekers on a SHOCK and AWE tour of the REAL world?

Name the most common cross carried by pagans while Jesus was walking on water Richard?
You do realize it was the swastika?

Originally Posted by RAM

Open any QM book.

All the best,

Richard
I really would love to see what Richard thinks an atom looks like?
All I want is a picture of what you think an atom looks like with an brief explanation of the parts.

I went to all the trouble of drawing a 2 and 5 for you.
See how blind you were to the obvious?
What else are you and me missing?

Science is based on observations, what have they observed?
Science has had 2000+ years to come up with a modEL of the atom.
There have been various incarnations of the atom as we have tried to define it....how many incarnations did Vishnu have?

Well what does the 'current' modEL of an atom look like, just to put us back on track with the topic of the title of the thread, is the hydrogen atom symmetrical?
My educated guess based on seeking out patterns (what's math got to do with it?) would suggest the hydrogen atom is not symmetrical.

I can hardly wait to see what you sketch for me.

cheers,

namaste

RaphaEL
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6. Originally Posted by Raphael
oh I forgot we are being recorded.
I can reject theism and still accept some of its ideas.
I can reject all BS beliefs and still accept some of it to be true, can't I?
Yes, of course. But if you don't make your meaning clear, don't be surprised that I am confused by what you mean.

Originally Posted by Raphael
It all looks like random associations to me. Why Matthew 1:18-25
Simple formula birth of cycle = 1:18-25 = CARD X is an algorithm called phi = 1, 1, 2, ?, 5, 8
It doesn't look like a real "algorithm." It looks like yet another example of post hoc pattern fitting which is meaningless.

Real science and real algorithms make predictions that can be tested. You are just gathering random bits and pieces from an infinite ocean of random data and using that to make up your own patterns. There is no sense of authentic "discovery" in your methodology. Sorry, that's just how it seems to me. The real question is this: Can you understand the reasons for my comments? I get the impression you do not understand at all because you are not responding to the comments that I now have repeated many times.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Because like Jesus whose BIRTH is the beginning of a cycle, his birth is depicted in Matthew 1:18-25.
And it just so happens that Freemasonry traces its inception to the beginning of the Age of Taurus around 4000 BCE.
Genesis is the beginning of the ultimate cycle, but Genesis 1:18-25 doesn't fit your pattern. It all looks arbitrary, and nothing you have written employs any PRINCIPLES that characterize SCIENCE. But you constantly pretend that you patterns are just like real science, and that's why it's pseudo-science.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Makes sense to me, but I can understand why it would not make sense to somebody who used to be a bible babbler and appears to be still clinging to some stupid religious ideas mixed in with his new love for science. How many books written on Freemasonry do you own or more importantly have read?
That's hilarious. You always devolve into stupid name calling like "bible babbler" when your irrational claims are exposed for what they are. And my love for science is not "new." I have degrees in Mathematics and Physics.

You claims are fundamentally irrational. And you go about claiming to be the Archangel Raphael. And you constantly emphasis meaningless patterns of supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs as if they were significant. And you ignore the principles of science while trying to imitate science. There's plenty of signs of paranoid schizophrenia.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Ever notice that many significant Semitic languages begin with a first letter that means ox.
IMHO around 4000 BCE is also when the self serving BS began.
Another coincidence, I think not.
I agree - you "think not." You should try it for a change.

In your world, every random scrap of confetti that can be pasted in your collage is obviously "not a coincidence."

Originally Posted by Raphael
you probably think the zodiac and ancient astrology are bunk?
I never said nor implied that. But your application of it may well be bunk. How would you know? You have no principles. You have no way to test if anything you say is true or false. You just collect random factoids and paste them into a "pattern" that you then claim - post hoc - to be "obviously not a coincidence."

Originally Posted by Raphael
It is really simple when you dispense LITERAL bible nonsense and just adopt a new stance.
It has nothing to do with figurative vs. literal.

Originally Posted by Raphael
12 disciples are 12 signs of the zodiac

Is there any relationship between the 12 tribes, the 12 disciples, the 12 signs of the zodiac?
The Jews have a tradition that associates the 12 tribes with the 12 signs. So what?

Your assertion that they are one and the same is absurd. The correlation is weak at best.
Originally Posted by Raphael
I shall continue to hover around the 12,000+ year old good luck symbol known by many names, i.e. YHVH/tetragrammaton/swastika, along with the number 137 because Richard Feynman told me to worry about it (because I am a good theorist) and linking DNA to all of the above and what is to follow would be a smart move too.
That's fine. I haven't said you shouldn't. I'm merely explaining the intellectual shortcomings of your presentation. You are pretending that the patterns you find/invent are connected somehow to fundamental physics. But that's a joke of the first order. Your ideas are very disordered, unprincipled, and undisciplined, whereas science is the epitome of order and principle and discipline. You have not THEORY of any kind that makes any kind of testable predictions. Your claims are pseudo-science.

Originally Posted by Raphael
We apparently have different concepts of what constitutes "proof."
True, you seem to reject more evidence than I do, as a reformed Christian you have become quite the grim reaper.
Is a scythe asymmetrical?
I am not a "grim reaper." I am merely explaining things that would be obvious to anyone familiar with the rigors of logic and science and truth and reality. You are playing games with random patterns, but you don't even know what you are doing.

Your obsession with the word "asymmetry" is just as meaningless as everything else. I tried reasoning with you about real science and the meaning of symmetry and asymmetry long ago and you proved yourself quite ignorant of the topic and unwilling to have a rational discourse about it.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Yes, the specific doctrine of the Trinity that was devised to answer the verses in the Bible is unique. I've never seen anything like they hypostatic union outside of Christianity.
who cares, it is all just a BS theory remember?
Your comment is irrational. You asserted that the Trinity was common outside of Christianity and I proved you wrong. The intelligent response would have been to admit the truth, but you don't appear to be interested in that.

Originally Posted by Raphael
could you please give me an analogy using science for what a hypotatic union means to me, a potential non-believer, because the wiki definition made no sense to me, I need to believe in a literal Christ to get it.
Of course not. The hypostatic union is bullshit. But it's essential to the Trinity which you claimed was common outside of Christianity. You don't seem to follow logic at all. Seriously. You make random non-sequitur comments in response to my reasoned statements.

Originally Posted by Raphael
But if you are going to import Biblical terminology, you will need to define it so folks don't CONFUSE it with the traditional meanings.
ROFL
Which one?
I mean which tainted version with accompanying translation is peachy keen with you?
Stop it Richard you are cracking me up now.
After 2000 years have we managed to get religions to believe in the same thing?
But I need to come clean on the bible lingo that everybody agrees on?
Then why use that langauge if you have no idea what it means? That is simply insane. Irrational. Nuts. I'm guessing now that this is all a game to you. You have no meaning that you are trying to communication. Just random jumbles of undefined terms. You don't even know what you mean when you write!

Originally Posted by Raphael
I am still waiting for an answer for why YHVH got rubbed out of far too may bibles to the tune of over 6800 times?
Or do I need to spell it out using appropriate bible lingo?
He didn't. You have been misinformed. There are a few examples of a few occurrences of YHVH in some mss of the Greek NT, but nothing to justify the claim of 6800 occurrences rubbed out.

But even if they were, so what? There could be any number of reasons, most notably the tradition of the Jews that forbade the speaking (and often writing) of the name. You now sound like a conspiracy theorist, you know.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Have you ever noticed the swastika technology called a revolving door?
Swastika "techonology" -

Get over yourself already. You are stuck in stone-age techonology.

Nothing you have written has any power like real science. It's all just random ramblings. But you don't understand that.

Originally Posted by Raphael
The swastika has you coming and going, and you are not even aware of it Richard, and that is yet another fact I can bank on with CHASE.
More post hoc random associations. You have no concept of principled reasoning.

Originally Posted by Raphael
It is the symbol that has been vEILed in plain view my friend.
Because it is IMPOSSIBLE to HIDE nature, you can only vEIL it with BS narratives that defy and defILE nature.

That is so obvious, it is funny.
Yes, it's utterly hilarious (in a pathetic sort of way) that you emphasise the letters L, I, and E, in every word you find them.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Really what is the 10,000 things in the east.
Bet I can show a connection to the value of the swastika in the east = 10,000?
I would bet 10K that the swastika means 10,000 in some Asian countries.
I know you could make up a connection between anything with anything. But would the connections have any kind of real meaning? Nope. It's an obsession. A mental disease. And you can't understand no matter how plainly it is explained because you don't want to see.

Originally Posted by Raphael
It seems you are often taken in by meaningless supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs.
I have proven my point time and again Richard, especially regarding the swastika.
You have never even stated your "point" with any clarity, let alone proven it.

Originally Posted by Raphael
ANYTHING JESUS can do, the SWASTIKA can do better, and in fact did for 10,000 years before the archetypal Jesus made his appearance.
I agree he is fake and made up.
So what does he really represent?
What a load of BULLSHIT! The "swastika" can't do anything. What are you babbling about?

Or what, can the swastika preach the sermon on the mount in Aramaic? Do you have any clue about the meaning words? Your assertions are just utterly nutterly.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I personally think MOST narratives default to precession of the equinoxes.

re: ultimate MEME supremacy of the swastika
It is truly a symbol so powerful you would need to vEIL it with bible babel, the BIGGER the LIE the better, this is how it verks comrade.

Until you can provide me with any symbol that better represents all of the following because it can be shown the swastika is profoundly connected to these concepts.
i.e. SPACE TIME MOTION or the SUN, MOON, STARS or WRATHFUL acts of NATURE by YHVH or its geometric equal that makes energy more efficient or any other symbol that we can link to the Great Pyramid, like we can the swastika .... Richard at the end of the day, it is your beliefs that appear kinda questionable, and your science is constantly being HUMBLED by swastika technology....starting with simple techologies like a windmill ... now we have NANO LIGHT MILLS that can manipulate our DNA, and you say it is all worthy of being ignored and dissed for how much longer, for how much longer are the gifts of god/nature whatever going to be vEILed and used against us....?
I gotta get me some utterly nutterly smilies. Your comments deserve them.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Lordy Lordy YHWH swastika tetragrammaton Gott, please forgive the ignorant for using your technologies in vain.
They have no IDEA what they do in their ignorance, IMHO this is how the Christian and the Scienctist epitaph reads at the end of the daze dude.
Why don't you try to state things in a way that has some meaning to people not living inside your head? As it is, your comments are meaningless.

Originally Posted by Raphael
The world is full of bullshit, and you are making outrageous claims that don't really match the meanings of the words you are using.
So I simply speak what I see as best I can. You find it frustrating because your collection of factoids lack coherence.
I could bury you with factoids about the swastika.
You've already done that. But you have ZERO understanding about how to communicate a rational thesis.

Originally Posted by Raphael
And that is a fact that is not outrageous, just a fact of life these past 12,000+ years.
It would make a wonderful narrative.
Man, Plato's Atlantis, swastika, the woolly mammoth and woolly sheeple all co-existed about 10,000 BCE.
Jesus does not show up for 10,000 years....
And scientists do not migrate up from the pond scum for yet another 1500 years after that.

And the swastika is a non-issue?
ROFL
You are writing like a raving lunatic. Your words are meaningless. I couldn't believe you if I wanted to becuase you are utterly incoherent.

Originally Posted by Raphael
You just proved why another Hitler is always on the horizon dude.
Take a bow Richard.

I can prove they can push the same buttons again and again as long as attitudes like yours are in existence.
The same ole' swastika buttons using the same ole' propaganda campaigns.
Why do you continue to spout meaningless babble? Have you no sense of reality at all?

Originally Posted by Raphael

Only now they can tweeter the twats to coalesce into a KONY 2012 BLACK WHITE RED MOB.

Here we have a brand new batch of ignorant numb and dumb humans who are clueless to the bigger corporate agenda.
http://at37.wordpress.com/2012/03/18...ack-white-red/
Oh my! Another superficial similarity that your paranoid schizophrenic brain interprets as another "sign" of whatever it is you think it means.

As long as you fail to make any testable predictions, your random associations will mean nothing.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I can show you 2 pictures I show people when I give lectures.
Everybody else can see it plain as day...

The blueprint for CERN was in the mind of man 400 years ago.
Clearly CERN is built using QaBaLaH and/or alchemy inspirations.

That is another factoid science cannot deal with.
No ... that's another superficial similarity that your broken brain is misinterpreting.

Well, that's enough for me. I just got done with another babbler who claimed to be the Messenger of the Covenant and Queen of the South with more wisdom than Solomon. I've had enough. You have proven yourself utterly immune to all rationality.

Have a nice day.

Richard

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Originally Posted by RAM
Yes, of course. But if you don't make your meaning clear, don't be surprised that I am confused by what you mean.

It doesn't look like a real "algorithm." It looks like yet another example of post hoc pattern fitting which is meaningless.
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8

oops I should have said logarithm.
A good teacher (you) would have noticed the flub and corrected me instead of saying my contribution is meaningless.
Everybody with a math and physics degree knows fibonacci/phi is a logarithm.

The 2000 year old Sator Square which predates Christianity is an algorithm.
Can't say there is any point in showing it to you dude.

Originally Posted by RAM
I get the impression you do not understand at all because you are not responding to the comments that I now have repeated many times.
I know you do NOT get it dude. I had to draw you a 2 and 5 in the center of a spiral. geesh.
I knew right then and there poor ole' Richard, the flip flop who has traded in his blinders for a cane is no Einstein or Escher.
(yes Escher tapped into swastika geometry too, geesh I need to enlighten the art world too??)

Originally Posted by RAM
Genesis is the beginning of the ultimate cycle, but Genesis 1:18-25 doesn't fit your pattern.
Exactly I never said it did.
Was I suggesting Jesus' birth documented in Matthew 1:18-25 was a reference to Precession and the phi spiral. YES.
But I never said Jesus' birth was the ultimate cycle...did I?
You are putting words into my mouth.

Here is what I will say about Genesis that is over your head, but can be found deep inside of you.
Genesis is a Gene-the-sis
Yes it is a gene thesis.

And like I suggested DNA is the Holy Grail, a 3.5 billion year old aLIEn life form and we have really only studied about 95% of it?
And the sheeple worry about aLIENs?
ROFL
We are so ignorant.

And Daniel is a reference to DANIEL err I mean DNAI37.

Russian scientists are showing Junk DNA carries language syntax, which I want to suggest is helping to lead humanity back to a unification, eventually, in spite of ignorance.
Everything has been written, and it probably is hiding in our Junk.

Originally Posted by RAM

It all looks arbitrary, and nothing you have written employs any PRINCIPLES that characterize SCIENCE. But you constantly pretend that you patterns are just like real science, and that's why it's pseudo-science.
FSC is science.
And just because you do not understand how e^2 could be pairs of animals entering a 137 meter Ark is not my problem.
It is obviously yours.

Originally Posted by RAM

That's hilarious. You always devolve into stupid name calling like "bible babbler" when your irrational claims are exposed for what they are. And my love for science is not "new." I have degrees in Mathematics and Physics.
bible babbler, sheeple, and ignorant are a few of my favorite words.
they are generic terms, I just put them out there to see if they stick.
and it is interesting to note from where I stand to see who steps forward and says 'hey I resemble that remark and take offence'.
I win immediately, but am the loser in the long run.

Originally Posted by RAM
You claims are fundamentally irrational. And you go about claiming to be the Archangel Raphael.
I AM what I AM
I realized I had a part to play when I found out that RaphaEL the archangEL is in fact associated esoterically with the swastika.
And considering I had already made profound connections between asymmetrical DNA and asymetrical swastika, I thought hey why not, maybe the swastika can heal the world?

The two-bit part of RaphaEL the archangel was available, I recognized that.
The rest will be history dude.
The name Raphael associated with the swastika will live on, because it has already been written.
All I did was try on the Hugo Boss designed Nazi uniform, and it fit to a 'T'. But I have found a new application for it.
Duh get with the program dude, you are missing out on a much grander game.

p.s. The part of Jesus is available.
Do you have what it takes to try on the robe as king to come?

Originally Posted by RAM

And you constantly emphasis meaningless patterns of supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs as if they were significant. And you ignore the principles of science while trying to imitate science. There's plenty of signs of paranoid schizophrenia.
Usually after ignorance takes offence to the things I say, it is not long before they reply I am crazy or schizophrenic.
ROFL
Ignorance does NOT know I have been speaking with a shrink since '97 when my marriage was ending. I went to get help with marriage counselling.

Fast forward to 2012, the marriage counselling ended around 2001 when I got a divorce. But I continued to use the PhD shrink as a sounding board for my novel noble NOBEL ideas, that I have been TRYING to share with you.
ROFL now I understand Lord how truth can be right in front of ignorance and it gets 'ignored'.

So what did my shrink suggest that last time I spoke with him?
He told me to take a vacation, go to Ireland for a month, and start writing my book, and one more thing, he wants to come along and help me write my book.
He says my research, there is nothing like it. It is rather unique.

What does my shrink friend who has the initials JC look like?
He looks something like this...typical 'Jew with a PhD'.
I went to him and suggested he write to 'Ed Witten the Jew with a PhD' on my behalf, the nobody, the goyim golem.
Get it?
I doubt you do Richard.

I am connected to bible babel that is beyond what you can comprehend. Because long ago you bought the farm called Christianity, died and went to some kind of distorted heaven and guess what, you never really did sell the farm. You still appear kinda 'dead' to the obvious.

I AM a true blue mystic, I can feel it in my bones. And one day if we should meet I will share a mind over matter parlor trick that seems to impress 'we the sheeple' Here I AM doing battle with a former bible babbler who now eats science dogma for breakfast instead of prayer?
A real turn around of events.
Stop it....you are insulting yourself and cheapening the depth of the creation too at the same time, you fool.
I can see why you place the Fool in the #one position of the tarot, NOT everybody puts the FOOL first.
But you go ahead take that step.

Its all connected, everything, in spite of what you might believe, on your way DOWN....
duh is all I can say to your BS science that cannot prove we are all connected.
but then again it is you who claims a degree in math and physics and yet you have yet to draw me a picture of ONE measly atom?
FAIL
A link would even do to an image of what you beLIEve an atom/adam looks like.

Richard you flipped from a belief where Jesus was divine to where you agree Jesus is BS (not one person thought to sketch the son of god eh?), and the flop continued to a belief that can not draw me a picture of a hydrogen atom?
So where is that image of the atom that everybody in your religion called science can agree on?

And may I remind you that I have presented you with countless images of swastikas beginning around 10,000 BCE, and I can illustrate how its applications can be used for FEAR, LOVE, and energy efficiency....
And the former bible babbler who used to believe in miracles is now using the TOOL called science and now he sees nothing when presented with overwhelming swastika evidence?
ROFL

I would suggest that we can use the two swastikas to represent the electron and its anti- particle, the positron.
I have more REAL proof of my evolving theory than you do dude of the boy blunder who really left only wonders, no science formulas, and science the new religion, called quantum mechanics....
As a matter of fact your Bible Wheel and Vortex default to concepts like the Kalachakra or a spiraling Wheel of Time or if we go back far enough, the cw vs. ccw swastika.

Richard the new religion you bought into is infested with wankers like Charles DUHwin and Richard DUHkins.
BTW the math and science proofs that you demand from me regarding a theory of everything re: swastika, is to be found in the engineering designs of the many swastika technologies.
Obvious is it not, one design, an algorithm that is at the heART of of movement.
I can show you swastikas in the Mandelbrot set, are you interested in seeing them?

Probably not, but I will post it anyway for anybody with an open MiNd and heART to watch at their leisure.
The Mandelbrot is an algorithm, wait till near the end...from 2:05 onwards we see how the swastika is fractal geometry, self-similarity, SCALING.
Hello is there anybody home at the physicks institute?
Therefore the swastika is obviously an algorithm herr mister math/physics expert. I am NOT impressed.

As a matter of fact as my swastika algorithm goes, it is in the Mandelbrot we see very teeny tiny swirly twirly swastikas that look just like the SYMBOL USED FOR REPEAT in music.
hahaha too funny, even the music of the spheres defaults to swastika repeats, or shall we say Judeao Christians reBLEATing the same ole looney tunes?

Btw please think back to your righteous days, what kind of math and science knowledge did the big LIE Jesus leave us?
Can you or anybody explain the 2 Fish and 5 Loaves miracle better than Marko Rodin's VBM which is based on the numbers 2 and 5?
Nope.
And you jumping up and down like a little kid Richard saying Marko R offers nothing IS NOT SCIENCE dude, it is an opinion.

Too funny the former fence sitting Ralph who became the archangEL RaphaEL carrying a big swastika schtick has to berate you, the former bible babbler into seeing the light, the magic.
Life is strange eh?
I think it is great.
I found a trinity of trees in Eden.
The Tree of Knowledge
The Tree of Life
The PoeTree

Originally Posted by RAM

I agree - you "think not." You should try it for a change.

In your world, every random scrap of confetti that can be pasted in your collage is obviously "not a coincidence."
Now you got it.
There are no coincidences, everything is unified.
So religion was a FAIL Richard, science is not serving you much better.

What will be next?
Can I suggest 'Shaman U'.
Do ayahusaca (DMT), and tell me what kind of geometric visions you have Plato.

Originally Posted by RAM
I never said nor implied that. But your application of it may well be bunk. How would you know? You have no principles. You have no way to test if anything you say is true or false. You just collect random factoids and paste them into a "pattern" that you then claim - post hoc - to be "obviously not a coincidence."
Sounds like science and religion eh?
I can see how that might frustrate somebody like you who is OBVIOUSLY struggling with defining the two concepts as separate.
ROFL

It is you who needs to see a good shrink.

Originally Posted by RAM

The Jews have a tradition that associates the 12 tribes with the 12 signs. So what?

Your assertion that they are one and the same is absurd. The correlation is weak at best.

Another of my books that suggests you Richard are the one that is spewing a mish mash of nonsense.

Richard Tarnas would like you to attend his university course regarding astrology.

He says you with your BS math and physics degree has no right to dis his degree that shows the importance of astrology.
The day your Bible Wheel bible babel is taught in Universities like his course is Richard is the day you can fill your ego to the max, gloat and float away, is the only way you may ever ascend.

Originally Posted by RAM

That's fine. I haven't said you shouldn't. I'm merely explaining the intellectual shortcomings of your presentation. You are pretending that the patterns you find/invent are connected somehow to fundamental physics. But that's a joke of the first order.
alpha FSC a.k.a. 1/137 says loud and clear that your last statement is just plain stupid.

Originally Posted by RAM

Your ideas are very disordered, unprincipled, and undisciplined, whereas science is the epitome of order and principle and discipline. You have not THEORY of any kind that makes any kind of testable predictions. Your claims are pseudo-science.
Draw me a picture of an atom please.
Show me a sketch of the Ark or Jesus please?

It seems it is you who is full of imaginary friends Richard.

Originally Posted by RAM
Your obsession with the word "asymmetry" is just as meaningless as everything else.
ROFL
Here is where I draw the line.
Here is where I stand up to the bully that is you called IGNORANCE.

Here is a PhD paper criticizing Einstein and ASYMMETRY is the issue.
How Einstein Made Asymmetry Disappear: Symmetry and Relativity in 1905

http://www.myoops.org/twocw/nctu/upl...n_symmetry.pdf

ASYMMETRY is important because ALL the building blocks we use are ASYMMETRICAL.
And it figures it would take RaphaEL with a square head Teutonic background to point that out.
Square heads like to use asymmetrical building blocks to build their empires from the ground up....
Duh only a mystic sees the obvious?
We have asymmetrical swastika technologies to help us out in a world that has been designed using asymmetry?
Duh the reason YOU cannot follow along poor ole' king Richard is because you have a LYIN' heart.

Originally Posted by RAM
I tried reasoning with you about real science and the meaning of symmetry and asymmetry long ago and you proved yourself quite ignorant of the topic and unwilling to have a rational discourse about it.
But is you who are clearly ignorant dude.
You have not a clue about asymmetry and that is laughable considering you claim a degree in physics.
Did you mail away to Mexico for your degree?
I stand my ground and am willing to discuss ASYMMETRY till the cows come home.
It is one of the pillars of my theory of everything, which till now has been lost on you and your cracker jack PhD.
Here is my NOBEL support that says ASYMMETRY on many levels is very important.
http://at37.wordpress.com/2012/03/27...asymmetry-etc/

Originally Posted by RAM
Dude I see certain patterns based on 22/7 = 3 1/7.
A pattern embedded into the Great Pyramid....a real mystery still today.

But it is you and your steadfast belief in irrational pi that defines you in a roundabout way.
Even making claims that the Great Pyramid is over rated.
ROFL

Originally Posted by RAM
the Trinity which you claimed was common outside of Christianity. You don't seem to follow logic at all.
The IDEA of three if found the world over.
And the fact the bible babblers cling to a TRINITY defined long long long after other scripts were written means what?
Damn good creative plagiarism....COPY CAT scriptures...this is obvious to fellas like Joseph Campbell and Tom Harpur...maybe it will be obvious to you one day too?

I will give the folks who sit around all day thinking what to script some credit.

Originally Posted by RAM
He didn't. You have been misinformed.
There are a few examples of a few occurrences of YHVH in some mss of the Greek NT, but nothing to justify the claim of 6800 occurrences rubbed out.
I can see you refuse to visit sites that will burst your bible bubble and take your science with it down to the abyss of truth.

YOU?
its like flogging a dead horse with a pale rider on it.

Originally Posted by RAM
But even if they were, so what? There could be any number of reasons, most notably the tradition of the Jews that forbade the speaking (and often writing) of the name. You now sound like a conspiracy theorist, you know.
Remember I made the claim I had connected the HIGGS Boson to SOUND long before CERN posted Higgs sound effects?

Why did I make that claim?
DUH AUM let me think about it.
DUH OM let me think about it a bit longer.
Hmm the INEFFABLE name should not be uttered...DUH let me think about that one for the next 2000 years.

So the son of god has spurned 2000 years of LIGHT WORKER idiocy.
DUH what about the SOUND effects!

Another reason my theory about SOUND is sound.

SOUND waves = maltese cross
LIGHT waves = swastika

Originally Posted by RAM

Swastika "techonology" -

Get over yourself already. You are stuck in stone-age techonology.
Swastika NANO technology suggests you are blind to the obvious.

Originally Posted by RAM
Nothing you have written has any power like real science. It's all just random ramblings. But you don't understand that.
More post hoc random associations. You have no concept of principled reasoning.
Yes, it's utterly hilarious (in a pathetic sort of way) that you emphasise the letters L, I, and E, in every word you find them.
I know you could make up a connection between anything with anything. But would the connections have any kind of real meaning? Nope. It's an obsession. A mental disease. And you can't understand no matter how plainly it is explained because you don't want to see.
You have never even stated your "point" with any clarity, let alone proven it.
What a load of BULLSHIT! The "swastika" can't do anything. What are you babbling about?
Or what, can the swastika preach the sermon on the mount in Aramaic? Do you have any clue about the meaning words? Your assertions are just utterly nutterly.
I gotta get me some utterly nutterly smilies. Your comments deserve them.
Why don't you try to state things in a way that has some meaning to people not living inside your head? As it is, your comments are meaningless.
You've already done that. But you have ZERO understanding about how to communicate a rational thesis.
You are writing like a raving lunatic. Your words are meaningless. I couldn't believe you if I wanted to becuase you are utterly incoherent.
Why do you continue to spout meaningless babble? Have you no sense of reality at all?
Oh my! Another superficial similarity that your paranoid schizophrenic brain interprets as another "sign" of whatever it is you think it means.
As long as you fail to make any testable predictions, your random associations will mean nothing.
No ... that's another superficial similarity that your broken brain is misinterpreting.
How about we just sum up all of the above with Ignorance is bliss?

Originally Posted by RAM
Well, that's enough for me. I just got done with another babbler who claimed to be the Messenger of the Covenant and Queen of the South with more wisdom than Solomon. I've had enough. You have proven yourself utterly immune to all rationality.

Have a nice day.

Richard
Is there an echo in here?
Have a nice day flipping and flopping about like a piscean fish out of water, out of its ELement.

Having to draw the 2 and 5 on those spirals alerted me to the fact you will never get a NOBEL prize for your work mr. flip flop.
But I would award atrophy for your right brain dude, because it has clearly shriveled up.

Temple Grandin was lucky to avoid the persecution of experts like king Richard.
People like this truly inspire me.
We need more folks like this to help us pull up the anchors called science vs. religion, time to move on Capt. Ahab.

namaste

RaphaEL

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8. Originally Posted by Raphael
Simple formula birth of cycle = 1:18-25 = CARD X is an algorithm called phi = 1, 1, 2, ?, 5, 8
It doesn't look like a real "algorithm." It looks like yet another example of post hoc pattern fitting which is meaningless.
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8

oops I should have said logarithm.
A good teacher (you) would have noticed the flub and corrected me instead of saying my contribution is meaningless.
Everybody with a math and physics degree knows fibonacci/phi is a logarithm.
You misunderstood my comment. I knew what you meant when you called "1, 1, 2, ?, 5, 8" and "algorithm." The problem is that is it not an "algorithm" - it's just another random association. The "algorithm" itself would be the rule fn+1 = fn + fn-1. that defines the Fibonacci sequence, and from that you could note that phi = lim fn+1/fn. Your assertion that the number sequence 11825 should be associated with that number sequence is just another random association. What meaning or prediction comes of it? It is not an "algorithm" or "logarithm" of any kind.

I get the impression you have no understanding of my criticism of your methodology. Let me state it again - POST HOC pattern fitting is meaningless. Why don't you respond to this criticism?

Originally Posted by Raphael
The 2000 year old Sator Square which predates Christianity is an algorithm.
Can't say there is any point in showing it to you dude.
You are correct - what would be the point of showing me more random associations. You are pretending that your patterns are related to a "theory of everything" but you have not presented any "theory" of any kind. A scientific theory is "a coherent group of tested general propositions that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: e.g. Einstein's theory of relativity." You have not presented a "theory" of any kind. You have merely presented a very large pile of facts loosely connected by superficial similarities.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I get the impression you do not understand at all because you are not responding to the comments that I now have repeated many times.
I know you do NOT get it dude. I had to draw you a 2 and 5 in the center of a spiral. geesh.
No, you are the one who does not "get it." You have not responded intelligently to any of my critiques.

As for having to draw the 2 and the 5 - you failed miserably describing what you meant in words. I followed your exact instructions so you could see your error, and only then did you finally make yourself clear ... and then your ERROR was plain and obvious for all to see. You had asserted that there was a 2 and a 5 in the one image! But there was no "5" - there was only a 2. To get the 5 you had to create a mirror image the original, so your statement that both the 2 and 5 were in the original image was false and misleading. It is therefore absurd for you to blame your confusion on me.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I knew right then and there poor ole' Richard, the flip flop who has traded in his blinders for a cane is no Einstein or Escher.
(yes Escher tapped into swastika geometry too, geesh I need to enlighten the art world too??)
You don't know shit about "poor ole' Richard."

You write like an arrogant ass, you know. It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't so ignorant. You fail to communicate what you mean with any clarity at all, and then you blame it on me. You are quite a piece of work!

Originally Posted by Raphael
Genesis is the beginning of the ultimate cycle, but Genesis 1:18-25 doesn't fit your pattern.
Exactly I never said it did.
Was I suggesting Jesus' birth documented in Matthew 1:18-25 was a reference to Precession and the phi spiral. YES.
But I never said Jesus' birth was the ultimate cycle...did I?
You are putting words into my mouth.
No, I am NOT putting any words in your mouth! I never attributed any words to you. I simply asked a question, and you failed miserably to answer it with any understanding. You didn't even understand it!

Didn't they teach you how to think in the Archangel Academy?

Originally Posted by Raphael
Here is what I will say about Genesis that is over your head, but can be found deep inside of you.
Genesis is a Gene-the-sis
Yes it is a gene thesis.
That's not "over my head." It is far beneath my head. It is a trivial word game with no meaning.

Originally Posted by Raphael
And like I suggested DNA is the Holy Grail, a 3.5 billion year old aLIEn life form and we have really only studied about 95% of it?
And the sheeple worry about aLIENs?
ROFL
We are so ignorant.
I don't worry about aliens. But your obsession with random occurrences of the letters L, I, and E would worry me quite a bit if I were your psychiatrist.

Originally Posted by Raphael
And Daniel is a reference to DANIEL err I mean DNAI37.
Oh yes, there's a good deduction. E and L can be rotated to make symbols superficially similar to 3 and 7, so let's write DNA137 for Daniel! Brilliant! You must be the smartest person on the planet.

Have you no idea how absurd and meaningless your "methodology" appears to be?

Originally Posted by Raphael
It all looks arbitrary, and nothing you have written employs any PRINCIPLES that characterize SCIENCE. But you constantly pretend that you patterns are just like real science, and that's why it's pseudo-science.
FSC is science.
And just because you do not understand how e^2 could be pairs of animals entering a 137 meter Ark is not my problem.
It is obviously yours.
Oh yes ... I obviously have a big problem understanding the random superficial similarities that obsess your broken brain.

Why did you ignore AGAIN my critique that your work is pseudo-science? Every time you fail to respond to my rational critiques you only confirm that your whole program is the product of a broken brain.

Originally Posted by Raphael
That's hilarious. You always devolve into stupid name calling like "bible babbler" when your irrational claims are exposed for what they are. And my love for science is not "new." I have degrees in Mathematics and Physics.
bible babbler, sheeple, and ignorant are a few of my favorite words.
They make you look stupid and ignorant, especially when you throw them out in response to critiques of your work. I have explained your problem a dozen times and you still don't get it. Indeed, it appears you are so stone-stupid that you don't even understand it!

Originally Posted by Raphael
You claims are fundamentally irrational. And you go about claiming to be the Archangel Raphael.
I AM what I AM
I realized I had a part to play when I found out that RaphaEL the archangEL is in fact associated esoterically with the swastika.
And considering I had already made profound connections between asymmetrical DNA and asymetrical swastika, I thought hey why not, maybe the swastika can heal the world?

The two-bit part of RaphaEL the archangel was available, I recognized that.
The rest will be history dude.
The name Raphael associated with the swastika will live on, because it has already been written.
All I did was try on the Hugo Boss designed Nazi uniform, and it fit to a 'T'. But I have found a new application for it.
Duh get with the program dude, you are missing out on a much grander game.

p.s. The part of Jesus is available.
Do you have what it takes to try on the robe as king to come?
OK - you wanted to convince me that you are a paronoid schizophrenic? Mission accomplished!

Originally Posted by Raphael
And you constantly emphasis meaningless patterns of supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs as if they were significant. And you ignore the principles of science while trying to imitate science. There's plenty of signs of paranoid schizophrenia.
Usually after ignorance takes offence to the things I say, it is not long before they reply I am crazy or schizophrenic.
ROFL
Ignorance does NOT know I have been speaking with a shrink since '97 when my marriage was ending. I went to get help with marriage counselling.
Dude, I don't take any personal offense to anything you say. You are obviously deranged. I have presented reasoned challenges to your assertions and you have failed to anwer any of them. Case in point: you have never answered my fundamental criticism of your "methodology" of basing your theory on "supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs" which is very common amongst paranoid schizophrenics. You then confirm that you have some kind of seriouis mental disorder by your adamant refusal to deal with the facts that I have presented over and over again.

You can ROFL all you want. It won't justify your denial of the evidence you have presented that indicates you have a profound mental disorder.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Fast forward to 2012, the marriage counselling ended around 2001 when I got a divorce. But I continued to use the PhD shrink as a sounding board for my novel noble NOBEL ideas, that I have been TRYING to share with you.
ROFL now I understand Lord how truth can be right in front of ignorance and it gets 'ignored'.
Dude! Read your own words. You have ignored all the legitimate challenges I have presented. You have ignored my explanation of why your "work" is meaningless. You are just babbling to yourself here in public. You are not responding to reason. Yet you continue to claim that I am the one "ignoring" something. What then? What am I ignoring? And what about you? Why have you refused to answer my challenges to your schizophrenic "methodology."

Here's an irony for you: You are totally convinced by any "supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs" that match your preconceived ideas. Well, you can't deny that your writing look exactly like the ravings a paranoid schizophrenic, right? I mean, you can't deny the similarity, right? So using your methodology, what must you conclude?

Originally Posted by Raphael
So what did my shrink suggest that last time I spoke with him?
He told me to take a vacation, go to Ireland for a month, and start writing my book, and one more thing, he wants to come along and help me write my book.
He says my research, there is nothing like it. It is rather unique.
He needs to learn English. The phrase "rather unique" is an obomination.

And if he is so impressed with your work, why are you wasting your time here? You are not giving intelligent responses to any of my challenges. You are making yourself look like an utterly nutterly fool.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I am connected to bible babel that is beyond what you can comprehend. Because long ago you bought the farm called Christianity, died and went to some kind of distorted heaven and guess what, you never really did sell the farm. You still appear kinda 'dead' to the obvious.
BULLSHIT. You know nothing of what I can "comprehend." You have built a tower of arrogance upon a foundation of ignorance.

Originally Posted by Raphael
I AM a true blue mystic, I can feel it in my bones. And one day if we should meet I will share a mind over matter parlor trick that seems to impress 'we the sheeple' Here I AM doing battle with a former bible babbler who now eats science dogma for breakfast instead of prayer?
A real turn around of events.
Stop it....you are insulting yourself and cheapening the depth of the creation too at the same time, you fool.
I can see why you place the Fool in the #one position of the tarot, NOT everybody puts the FOOL first.
But you go ahead take that step.
And for all your wisdom you can't answer any challenge to your "work." And neither can you explain what your own words mean!

You just BABBLE ON.

Originally Posted by Raphael
Its all connected, everything, in spite of what you might believe, on your way DOWN....
duh is all I can say to your BS science that cannot prove we are all connected.
Your ignorance is deep Dozens of books have been written about how science - most notably QM - shows that everything is connected. Ever hear of Bell's Theorem? EPR? Non-locality? Sheesh!

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Originally Posted by RAM
It is not an "algorithm" or "logarithm" of any kind.
So it is apparent that when your math/physics nonsense fails you, you resort to semite semantics to 'score points' instead?

Yes U R correct, those numbers 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8 .... is NOT a logarithm ... duh duh pardon me, duh duh, those numbers are the result of a logarithm ... duh duh U R correct ... duh duh .... pardon me you win

Originally Posted by RAM

No, you are the one who does not "get it." You have not responded intelligently to any of my critiques.

As for having to draw the 2 and the 5 - you failed miserably describing what you meant in words. I followed your exact instructions so you could see your error, and only then did you finally make yourself clear ... and then your ERROR was plain and obvious for all to see. You had asserted that there was a 2 and a 5 in the one image! But there was no "5" - there was only a 2. To get the 5 you had to create a mirror image the original, so your statement that both the 2 and 5 were in the original image was false and misleading. It is therefore absurd for you to blame your confusion on me.
You are full of it dude. You are being recorded too btw. I have proof you are full of BS.
I said a 5 right from the beginning.
http://www.biblewheel.com/forum/show...2807#post42807
You are one click away >>> PROOF YOU ARE BLIND TO THE OBVIOUS and then you dare twist the truth or is your memory starting to fade from view?
ROFL

I am absolutely correct in blaming your inability to see the OBVIOUS on you, and now in your typical fashion you twist what I said to make yourself look good?
I have not the time to go back over our correspondence and pull out all the crap you have twisted about. You are your problem.
geesh

Originally Posted by RAM
You don't know shit about "poor ole' Richard."
I know all I need to know.
You are a former religious Christian funnyandmentalist who turned over a new leaf, deciding his born again status would be an ignorant science dude with a PhDuh.
So when are you going to find the MIDDLE PATH grasshopper?

grow up poor little ole' Richard, you are playing with fire with being a liar liar.
This time YOU LOSE liar liar.
Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose....
Get used to it dude, RaphaEL the archangEL suggests you are on your way down king Richard.

I have much more proof I am winning even at your own game called 'come blow your shofar horn' ... I need not say a thing.
I only need to re-post your rant.
Hey as archangEL I can offer you a red, blue or chill pill dude, which would you like?

Originally Posted by RAM
You write like an arrogant ass, you know. It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't so ignorant. You fail to communicate what you mean with any clarity at all, and then you blame it on me. You are quite a piece of work!

No, I am NOT putting any words in your mouth! I never attributed any words to you. I simply asked a question, and you failed miserably to answer it with any understanding. You didn't even understand it!

Didn't they teach you how to think in the Archangel Academy?

That's not "over my head." It is far beneath my head. It is a trivial word game with no meaning.

I don't worry about aliens. But your obsession with random occurrences of the letters L, I, and E would worry me quite a bit if I were your psychiatrist.

Oh yes, there's a good deduction. E and L can be rotated to make symbols superficially similar to 3 and 7, so let's write DNA137 for Daniel! Brilliant! You must be the smartest person on the planet.

Have you no idea how absurd and meaningless your "methodology" appears to be?

Oh yes ... I obviously have a big problem understanding the random superficial similarities that obsess your broken brain.

Why did you ignore AGAIN my critique that your work is pseudo-science? Every time you fail to respond to my rational critiques you only confirm that your whole program is the product of a broken brain.

They make you look stupid and ignorant, especially when you throw them out in response to critiques of your work. I have explained your problem a dozen times and you still don't get it. Indeed, it appears you are so stone-stupid that you don't even understand it!

OK - you wanted to convince me that you are a paronoid schizophrenic? Mission accomplished!

Dude, I don't take any personal offense to anything you say. You are obviously deranged. I have presented reasoned challenges to your assertions and you have failed to anwer any of them. Case in point: you have never answered my fundamental criticism of your "methodology" of basing your theory on "supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs" which is very common amongst paranoid schizophrenics. You then confirm that you have some kind of seriouis mental disorder by your adamant refusal to deal with the facts that I have presented over and over again.

You can ROFL all you want. It won't justify your denial of the evidence you have presented that indicates you have a profound mental disorder.

Dude! Read your own words. You have ignored all the legitimate challenges I have presented. You have ignored my explanation of why your "work" is meaningless. You are just babbling to yourself here in public. You are not responding to reason. Yet you continue to claim that I am the one "ignoring" something. What then? What am I ignoring? And what about you? Why have you refused to answer my challenges to your schizophrenic "methodology."

Here's an irony for you: You are totally convinced by any "supErfIciaL simiLarItiEs" that match your preconceived ideas. Well, you can't deny that your writing look exactly like the ravings a paranoid schizophrenic, right? I mean, you can't deny the similarity, right? So using your methodology, what must you conclude?

He needs to learn English. The phrase "rather unique" is an obomination.

And if he is so impressed with your work, why are you wasting your time here? You are not giving intelligent responses to any of my challenges. You are making yourself look like an utterly nutterly fool.

BULLSHIT. You know nothing of what I can "comprehend." You have built a tower of arrogance upon a foundation of ignorance.

And for all your wisdom you can't answer any challenge to your "work." And neither can you explain what your own words mean!

You just BABBLE ON.

Your ignorance is deep Dozens of books have been written about how science - most notably QM - shows that everything is connected. Ever hear of Bell's Theorem? EPR? Non-locality? Sheesh!
All your huffing and puffing and you still can NOT show me or direct me to a link that confirms what YOU THINK a hydrogen ATOM looks like???

In a BS war of words on the internet dude, YOUR INABILITY to produce a modEL of an atom that ALL SCIENCE X-perts can agree on, suggests I win in a big way.

Your beLIEfs seem to focus on invisible shit, ghosts like Jesus and hydrogen atoms, AND YET you ignore the physical evidence that proves the supremacy of the 'G'eometric swasika.
ROFL

Forgive 'em lord, the ignorant do not know what they do.

namaste

RaphaEL

p.s. last stab at enlightening ewe.

The two spectral lines of the hydrogen atom are the two thieves flanking Jesus. We then write the dimensionless constant 1/137 on Jesus.
alpha FSC is made up of a trinity of important constants.
Whether we are talking about the Son or Sun of God, both would have to start out as a hydrogen atom/adam.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/201...-sabachthanie/

10. Originally Posted by Raphael
This time YOU LOSE liar liar.
Uh, no ... this time you lose. You are banned. I have no reason to give deluded people like you a place to rave incoherently and spew out unfounded insults. The fact that I didn't immediately understand your obscure pattern of 5s on the symbol does not make me a liar. But for the record, you are correct that I was mistaken about your description - you did talk about 5s and you did not say both the 2 and the 5 were on the same symbol. My mistake was just that - a MISTAKE. It would only have become a lie if I did not admit the mistake after your showed it to me. But since you didn't have the common decency to even discuss it with me before hurling your insults, I have no interest in interacting with you in any way. You are fundamentally irrational and rude. It's not a pretty mix.

I have given you all the opportunity in the world to respond rationally, but you chose to be utterly irrational and arrogant. You can go play with Lotus Feet on her blog. She's a lot like you. She thinks she's the Messenger of the Covenant, the Queen of the South with more wisdom than Solomon and most Bible prophecies are about her. And you think you are the Archangel Raphael. You two should get along just fine.

Bye-bye.

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