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		<title>By: R. A. McGough</title>
		<link>http://www.biblewheel.com/blog/index.php/2012/04/11/a-reader-responds-to-why-i-quit-christianity/#comment-41799</link>
		<dc:creator>R. A. McGough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi IrisRose, 

I really appreciate your well-informed comments, and especially your open-minded attitude. I look forward to any insights you feel inspired to share. 

All the best,

Richard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi IrisRose, </p>
<p>I really appreciate your well-informed comments, and especially your open-minded attitude. I look forward to any insights you feel inspired to share. </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: IrisRose</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrisRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Richard,

I am not writing to try to change your mind, in fact, I totally agree with you. I too, have left Christianity, (the religious sector) but I do believe in a Higher Power. I only came to this realization and feeling after studying these past four years the Bible receiving my doctorate in Theology. During my studies I found a lot of Biblical similarities to other stories, mainly Egyptian. I have found several contradictions throughout the Bible. I have also noticed that the majority of Christians aren&#039;t really Christians rather they live according to what Paul says...the majority of Christians quote scriptures, (mainly from Paul letters) but few of them have actually read and studied the entire Bible and fail to give a person concrete answers based on their knowledge, which always shows their lack of knowledge.

We have chosen to think. Thinking is not a part of Christianity and the like, rather the Bible says so and thus it is so... After studying the foundation behind Christianity, and the knowledge behind who King James really was, and the so-called name YHWH, (which puts the Creator on the same level as us, by giving Him a made up name, like Joe, Jim, Sam, etc.) if Christians would just think, learn, read and study, they would probably have a different perspective as you and I have come to have. It amazes me how Christians overlook the fact that God said something different to every author of the Bible, and Paul&#039;s letters contradict themselves.

Anyway, I could go on and on, with facts, scriptures and history but it&#039;s simply not enough room here. Continue in your spiritual walk which is probably more in line with the most High and Jesus&#039; teachings, than most Christians walk and than most Christians would admit. Thank you for your honest posting. There are a lot of us striving toward a spiritual walk rather than a religious walk ran by man, money, and hypocrisy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard,</p>
<p>I am not writing to try to change your mind, in fact, I totally agree with you. I too, have left Christianity, (the religious sector) but I do believe in a Higher Power. I only came to this realization and feeling after studying these past four years the Bible receiving my doctorate in Theology. During my studies I found a lot of Biblical similarities to other stories, mainly Egyptian. I have found several contradictions throughout the Bible. I have also noticed that the majority of Christians aren&#8217;t really Christians rather they live according to what Paul says&#8230;the majority of Christians quote scriptures, (mainly from Paul letters) but few of them have actually read and studied the entire Bible and fail to give a person concrete answers based on their knowledge, which always shows their lack of knowledge.</p>
<p>We have chosen to think. Thinking is not a part of Christianity and the like, rather the Bible says so and thus it is so&#8230; After studying the foundation behind Christianity, and the knowledge behind who King James really was, and the so-called name YHWH, (which puts the Creator on the same level as us, by giving Him a made up name, like Joe, Jim, Sam, etc.) if Christians would just think, learn, read and study, they would probably have a different perspective as you and I have come to have. It amazes me how Christians overlook the fact that God said something different to every author of the Bible, and Paul&#8217;s letters contradict themselves.</p>
<p>Anyway, I could go on and on, with facts, scriptures and history but it&#8217;s simply not enough room here. Continue in your spiritual walk which is probably more in line with the most High and Jesus&#8217; teachings, than most Christians walk and than most Christians would admit. Thank you for your honest posting. There are a lot of us striving toward a spiritual walk rather than a religious walk ran by man, money, and hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: R. A. McGough</title>
		<link>http://www.biblewheel.com/blog/index.php/2012/04/11/a-reader-responds-to-why-i-quit-christianity/#comment-41597</link>
		<dc:creator>R. A. McGough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not true. I am not a metaphysical materialist. I don&#039;t know the nature of ultimate reality. I am open to the idea that reality could be grounded in Spirit or Cosmic Mind. On the other hand, there is much evidence that consciousness is a product of the brain. The real issue is substance dualism - the idea that there is a fundamental duality of Matter/Mind or Matter/Spirit. I think it more likely that ultimate reality is monistic (one substance). If we identify the primitive concept of physics (energy) with the primitive concept of consciousness, then we could understand ultimate reality as consciousness, and material reality as an &quot;object of consciousness&quot; that is itself grounded in consciousness. But that&#039;s all speculation. No one has any certain knowledge about such things, so I am not committed to any answer at this time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true. I am not a metaphysical materialist. I don&#8217;t know the nature of ultimate reality. I am open to the idea that reality could be grounded in Spirit or Cosmic Mind. On the other hand, there is much evidence that consciousness is a product of the brain. The real issue is substance dualism &#8211; the idea that there is a fundamental duality of Matter/Mind or Matter/Spirit. I think it more likely that ultimate reality is monistic (one substance). If we identify the primitive concept of physics (energy) with the primitive concept of consciousness, then we could understand ultimate reality as consciousness, and material reality as an &#8220;object of consciousness&#8221; that is itself grounded in consciousness. But that&#8217;s all speculation. No one has any certain knowledge about such things, so I am not committed to any answer at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
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		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re another person who  is only physical]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re another person who  is only physical</p>
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		<title>By: R. A. McGough</title>
		<link>http://www.biblewheel.com/blog/index.php/2012/04/11/a-reader-responds-to-why-i-quit-christianity/#comment-40956</link>
		<dc:creator>R. A. McGough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 04:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bill, 

I am completely sincere. I am fully committed to the truth and would be delighted if you could find any error in anything I have written. I have nothing to lose but the errors I may hold. 

I&#039;d be delighted to discuss anything with you, but I wonder if you are capable of having a rational conversation. Don&#039;t you think your comments were just a little rude and presumptuous? I mean, you don&#039;t know me and nothing I&#039;ve written indicates that anything in Christianity &quot;scared&quot; me. And I never thought that anyone is supposed to &quot;get everything&quot; they wanted. And my knowledge of the Bible is anything but &quot;mediocre.&quot; I could go on, but since you felt free to spew such baseless ad hominem in your introductory comments, which are entirely contrary to the most basic teachings of the Bible, I suspect there may be no way to help you see your errors. 

But don&#039;t worry, you didn&#039;t upset me. I&#039;d be most delighted if you would like to discuss things with me to show me the &quot;errors&quot; of my ways. 

All the best,

Richard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill, </p>
<p>I am completely sincere. I am fully committed to the truth and would be delighted if you could find any error in anything I have written. I have nothing to lose but the errors I may hold. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be delighted to discuss anything with you, but I wonder if you are capable of having a rational conversation. Don&#8217;t you think your comments were just a little rude and presumptuous? I mean, you don&#8217;t know me and nothing I&#8217;ve written indicates that anything in Christianity &#8220;scared&#8221; me. And I never thought that anyone is supposed to &#8220;get everything&#8221; they wanted. And my knowledge of the Bible is anything but &#8220;mediocre.&#8221; I could go on, but since you felt free to spew such baseless ad hominem in your introductory comments, which are entirely contrary to the most basic teachings of the Bible, I suspect there may be no way to help you see your errors. </p>
<p>But don&#8217;t worry, you didn&#8217;t upset me. I&#8217;d be most delighted if you would like to discuss things with me to show me the &#8220;errors&#8221; of my ways. </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Mild Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mild Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 03:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard apparently you are having a good time shooting down
adolesent Christians with the mediocre knowledge you have of the Bible and what it says. On reading your posts for clarafication on various points I have found none to be a problem answering. You seem to be a seed on stoney ground throwing red herrings out there for your own enjoyment and I doubt you ever were a true Christian. Aparently you thought Christianity would get you everything you wanted instead of costing everything you have. You have no intention of paying the price of suffering nor do you understand it. Obviously Christianity has scared and confused you and it is not what you thought it was. You are lacking both Faith and Courage. Christianity is NOT for sissies or quitters  and it takes years of dilligent study to get all the understanding that you lack. If you ARE sincere I will be glad to help you remove your doubts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard apparently you are having a good time shooting down<br />
adolesent Christians with the mediocre knowledge you have of the Bible and what it says. On reading your posts for clarafication on various points I have found none to be a problem answering. You seem to be a seed on stoney ground throwing red herrings out there for your own enjoyment and I doubt you ever were a true Christian. Aparently you thought Christianity would get you everything you wanted instead of costing everything you have. You have no intention of paying the price of suffering nor do you understand it. Obviously Christianity has scared and confused you and it is not what you thought it was. You are lacking both Faith and Courage. Christianity is NOT for sissies or quitters  and it takes years of dilligent study to get all the understanding that you lack. If you ARE sincere I will be glad to help you remove your doubts.</p>
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		<title>By: R. A. McGough</title>
		<link>http://www.biblewheel.com/blog/index.php/2012/04/11/a-reader-responds-to-why-i-quit-christianity/#comment-32257</link>
		<dc:creator>R. A. McGough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi David,

Thanks for taking time to write. I have answered your post in a new article on my home page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblewheel.com/content.php?22-A-reader-responds-to-my-article-Why-I-Quit-Christianity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

We can continue the conversation there. 

All the best,

Richard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Thanks for taking time to write. I have answered your post in a new article on my home page <a href="http://www.biblewheel.com/content.php?22-A-reader-responds-to-my-article-Why-I-Quit-Christianity" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>We can continue the conversation there. </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Richard,


I don&#039;t know why but I keep stumbling onto your site even though I am not looking for anything on it. But perhaps I can tell you my answers to your questions. I believe God has shown me certain truths:

(1) The scriptures are simply human writings, which reveal what their authors believed. They contain errors, but also contain a clear testimony of God and his ways and laws.
(2) The creation bears witness to the laws he set over them, thus declaring his glory and the works of his hands. For the lawmaker is God.
(3) God wrote his laws in our hearts, thus testifying the same laws as he wrote on the tablets of stone that he gave to Moses, which are the ten commandments.
(4) The laws of God are for our good, and only become a standard for his judgement to those who are wicked and despise them. But the righteous love his laws and keep them.
(5) God gives every one such a choice, to either accept or reject his goodness, and he will give to them as they choose. God guides the righteous, but the wicked will receive their own evil.
(6) Each one is fully responsible for his sin, but God will forgive all who do not want to sin, and God will enable those who truly want to live righteously to live righteously.
(7) Man is dust and will return to dust and remain as dust until God raises all the dead, and then the righteous will enter into life but the wicked will enter into shame.

If you would like to discuss anything with me, just email me and I would be glad to. =)


Peace to you,

David]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Richard,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why but I keep stumbling onto your site even though I am not looking for anything on it. But perhaps I can tell you my answers to your questions. I believe God has shown me certain truths:</p>
<p>(1) The scriptures are simply human writings, which reveal what their authors believed. They contain errors, but also contain a clear testimony of God and his ways and laws.<br />
(2) The creation bears witness to the laws he set over them, thus declaring his glory and the works of his hands. For the lawmaker is God.<br />
(3) God wrote his laws in our hearts, thus testifying the same laws as he wrote on the tablets of stone that he gave to Moses, which are the ten commandments.<br />
(4) The laws of God are for our good, and only become a standard for his judgement to those who are wicked and despise them. But the righteous love his laws and keep them.<br />
(5) God gives every one such a choice, to either accept or reject his goodness, and he will give to them as they choose. God guides the righteous, but the wicked will receive their own evil.<br />
(6) Each one is fully responsible for his sin, but God will forgive all who do not want to sin, and God will enable those who truly want to live righteously to live righteously.<br />
(7) Man is dust and will return to dust and remain as dust until God raises all the dead, and then the righteous will enter into life but the wicked will enter into shame.</p>
<p>If you would like to discuss anything with me, just email me and I would be glad to. =)</p>
<p>Peace to you,</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Noxot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noxot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 09:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[read origen, he answers all 3 of those concerns. don&#039;t be like the large crowd that says origen was a heretic, people who say that do not even know what origen was saying half the time. he is one of the most slandered church fathers that there is, and for good reason. the world hates him. I beg of you study origen and you will have your answers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read origen, he answers all 3 of those concerns. don&#8217;t be like the large crowd that says origen was a heretic, people who say that do not even know what origen was saying half the time. he is one of the most slandered church fathers that there is, and for good reason. the world hates him. I beg of you study origen and you will have your answers.</p>
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		<title>By: R. A. McGough</title>
		<link>http://www.biblewheel.com/blog/index.php/2012/04/11/a-reader-responds-to-why-i-quit-christianity/#comment-27507</link>
		<dc:creator>R. A. McGough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 02:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi again Victor,

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I asked you Richard; If God gave you a physical and a Spiritual life, and decides to terminate your physical life and moves you on to your eternal spiritual life, Where’s the immorality? Where is the murder?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I answered in my previous post to you. Please read it. I have not said that God taking a life is immoral. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Give God some credit, after all, your brain does not have the capacity to explain simple things like Infinite, Perfection, Nothing, Eternity, and so on.
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The problem is not with &quot;God&quot; per se. The problem is what the Bible says about God. If the God of the Bible is the true God, why did he choose to impersonate a brutal Bronze age tribal war god? And given that he chose to act that way, why should anyone believe in him? What kind of game is he playing? He&#039;s nothing like the &quot;Perfection&quot; of which you speak. On the contrary, he seems frankly insane. What rational being would inflict a three year famine on a whole nation of his people without even bothering to tell them why? And what rational being would inflict that punishment for the &quot;crimes&quot; of a previous king long dead? And what rational being would refuse to lift the famine until seven sons of the former king were murdered and hung up before him for months? Can you understand why such a god would seem insane to any sane person?  

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We weren’t placed on this World to judge, criticize, question, doubt, God.
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If we can&#039;t judge God, then we can&#039;t judge that he is good or righteous. That&#039;s just the way the game works. 

And if we can&#039;t criticize, question, or doubt, then we can&#039;t think. Is that what God want&#039;s? Mindless zombies? Why then did he give us brains? 

All the best,

Richard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Victor,</p>
<blockquote><p>
I asked you Richard; If God gave you a physical and a Spiritual life, and decides to terminate your physical life and moves you on to your eternal spiritual life, Where’s the immorality? Where is the murder?
</p></blockquote>
<p>I answered in my previous post to you. Please read it. I have not said that God taking a life is immoral. </p>
<blockquote><p>
Give God some credit, after all, your brain does not have the capacity to explain simple things like Infinite, Perfection, Nothing, Eternity, and so on.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem is not with &#8220;God&#8221; per se. The problem is what the Bible says about God. If the God of the Bible is the true God, why did he choose to impersonate a brutal Bronze age tribal war god? And given that he chose to act that way, why should anyone believe in him? What kind of game is he playing? He&#8217;s nothing like the &#8220;Perfection&#8221; of which you speak. On the contrary, he seems frankly insane. What rational being would inflict a three year famine on a whole nation of his people without even bothering to tell them why? And what rational being would inflict that punishment for the &#8220;crimes&#8221; of a previous king long dead? And what rational being would refuse to lift the famine until seven sons of the former king were murdered and hung up before him for months? Can you understand why such a god would seem insane to any sane person?  </p>
<blockquote><p>
We weren’t placed on this World to judge, criticize, question, doubt, God.
</p></blockquote>
<p>If we can&#8217;t judge God, then we can&#8217;t judge that he is good or righteous. That&#8217;s just the way the game works. </p>
<p>And if we can&#8217;t criticize, question, or doubt, then we can&#8217;t think. Is that what God want&#8217;s? Mindless zombies? Why then did he give us brains? </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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